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new topic to discuss the 2011 ALDS, NLDS, ALCS, NLCS and the World Series.
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Go Phillies!
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Go Rays!
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Go Brewers!
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I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts about Terry Collins' decision to pull Jose Reyes to protect his batting title after a bunt single in the first of their finale. Seems kinda pussified to me.
EDIT- hah! "Pussified" sneaks by the censor.
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It was a pretty **** poor move... not very competitive.
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Has Jeter noticed the Brewers' usage of "Beast Mode" this postseason?
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Yes. Yes, he has.
It's kind of odd though, they call it beast mode but the origin is not attributed to Juan Pierre (which I of course have a big problem with). They're imitating some character from the Monsters Inc. movie that Prince Fielder saw his kid doing. Something like that.
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Rooting for a Brewers-Tigers WS. Brewers-Rays backup plan.
Fuk the Rangers!
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Would definitely love to see the Brewers make it but Valverde makes it hard for me to root for the Tigers.
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Screw the tigers... rooting for Rays all the way.
Can we hire their entire front office?
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No Tiger cheering going on here, I'd rather see the Yanks.
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I never ever will root for the Yankees. I always root against them
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Wow, who woulda thought the Cards would beat the Phillies? I thought it was impressive that they hung tough all season and won the Wild Card but I'm sure most people figured they were just winning the chance to lose to the Phillies.
What is ESPN going to do without any of their east coast teams left in the playoffs? ;D
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No west coast teams left either.
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future 'talking point' for KW when the 2012 White Sox payroll is slashed by 30+%:
CST_soxvan - Daryl Van Schouwen
'Final four' MLB teams rank 10th, 11th, 13th, `17th in payroll. Sox and Cubs fifth and sixth, respectively.
4 hours ago
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Spending $$ gives you a good chance to make the playoffs most years (see Yankees and Red Sox) if you spend the money every year. Once the playoffs start it's the team with the hot hand that wins. In addition, the teams that consistently make the playoffs (Yankees, Red Sox and now Phillies) way outspend everyone else.
The only thing being number 5 in spending every couple of years means is that there is a good chance you're wasting your money those years.
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I agree with Pete, need to consistently spend, build up the minors, take selective FAs. That is how you keep a winner. It takes years.
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I so don't feel sorry for the Tigs.
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Me either. Hope they get swept.
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I'd rather see the Tigers make it to the WS rather than the Rangers. I never could get into anything down there in Texas including the cottonmouths, fireants, and armadillos.
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Go Brewers!
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Cards make it to the WS against the Rangers... didnt see that coming at the start of the year... Rangers yes... Cards not even close.
Would be something if they managed to win it again.
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I'm sure Cub fans are ecstatic...
Heh.
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And this is why sometimes the Wild Card really is helpful. The Cards won 90 games, so it's not like they backed into the playoffs or that they only made it because the Braves collapsed. But they did make it and are now going to the World Series.
Between the Cards and Brewers I was pulling for the Brewers sine the Cards have been there (and won it) recently. But hopefully next year for the Brewers. It would also be nice if they could somehow retain Fielder too, although that seems unlikely.
I'm sure Cub fans are hating this but the Cards are a class organization. And say what you want about LaRussa but the guy gets his team to win.
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Ozzie Guillen is hired by ESPN to join Baseball Tonight for the World Series:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-former-sox-manager-guillen-to-join-espn-during-world-series-20111017,0,7072479.story (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-former-sox-manager-guillen-to-join-espn-during-world-series-20111017,0,7072479.story)
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I hate the Wild Card. Go Rangers.
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I'm indifferent.
GO BANANA!
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I hate the Wild Card.
No doubt exacerbated by the fact that the Wild Card team has home field advantage in the WS.That struck me as "odd". . .and by "odd" I mean "retarted".
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Their league did with the all star game... and we know that means something now.
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Yeah, I know, "This time it counts" nonsense. Still odd that we've gotten to the point that the WC team gets home field. Ironically, wasn't Prince Fielder instrumental in accomplishing this?
Speaking of odd, the Cardinals:
Were 2nd in the league in blown saves
Led the league in GIDPs (that also means they had a lot of guys on base, but still. . .)
Also, did any of their pitchers make it through the 5th in that series vs. Milw?
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Are we sure a horrible Wild Card team never ended up with home field advantage back in the days where it simply alternated leagues.
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It should be the interleague record of the league.
So if the AL won 55% of the interleague games, then the AL should get home field advantage.
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It should be the interleague record of the league.
I agree. That makes more sense.
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that would never work unless you have the DH in both leagues... the NL is always at a disadvantage playing in AL parks...
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Well really isn't there some fancy (or non-fancy!) way of comparing the two individual teams going to the WS and basing it on that?
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that would never work unless you have the DH in both leagues... the NL is always at a disadvantage playing in AL parks...
The NL always has the option of adopting the DH.
If their brand of baseball is "better," it should work itself out on the field.
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cant find home away stats for interleague... so not sure if i have a valid argument or not.
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the NL is always at a disadvantage playing in AL parks
I'm not sure I get this logic. Wouldn't the AL teams be the one with a bigger disadvantage playing in NL parks? When playing with the DH rule, the NL teams GAIN an extra hitter in their lineup. Yet when playing in NL parks, the NL pitchers are used to hitting. Most of them may not be any good but are still surely better than AL pitchers who almost NEVER have to walk up to the plate. To me, the NL has the bigger advantage.
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the NL is always at a disadvantage playing in AL parks
I'm not sure I get this logic. Wouldn't the AL teams be the one with a bigger disadvantage playing in NL parks? When playing with the DH rule, the NL teams GAIN an extra hitter in their lineup. Yet when playing in NL parks, the NL pitchers are used to hitting. Most of them may not be any good but are still surely better than AL pitchers who almost NEVER have to walk up to the plate. To me, the NL has the bigger advantage.
Not really - basically, you're choosing between having Adam Dunn in your lineup or having Neifi Perez in your lineup in your example.
Yeah, the NL teams "gain" an extra hitter, but that extra hitter is a hitter who (in theory) wasn't good enough to be able to earn an everyday spot. Contrast that to the AL, where a DH is often a very very good hitter.
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What Joe said... but lets not use Adam Dunn as the example.. lets use Ortiz.
When bosox play interleague game at home they get to play Ortiz, NL team plays its best utility bat (still not as good as a DH in most cases).
Sure in the NL parks the AL has to bat a pitcher that normally doesnt bat... but what are you really giving up from a pitchers at bat compared to what the AL team is gaining when having the NL team visit.
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I have zero interest in the upcoming World Series. I will not watch it. Like Loveland, I have come to despise the Wild Card structure. I hate the fact that a 90-win team has gotten into the World Series. The Cardinals don't deserve to be there. They were only the best NL team for the final month or so of the season, NOT the best NL team for the whole season. And the Rangers... well, how could I root for Texas and that overrated ass, Nolan Ryan?
There are too many teams allowed to make the playoffs. For that matter, there are too many franchises in major league baseball, period. But that's another discussion.
Reportedly, your friend and mine, Bud Selig, wants to add yet another tier to the playoffs, allowing more teams in, and drawing out the playoffs over a longer period. I say, NO. Go the other way. Abolish divisions entirely, play balanced schedules, and have the top two teams from each league at the end of the regular season go to the playoffs. If there's a tie in the number of wins among the top league leaders, have one-game playoffs involving those teams that are tied.
Under this structure, your NL playoff teams this year would have been the Phillies (102 wins) and the Brewers (96 wins); in the AL, the Yankees (97 wins) and the Rangers (96 wins). No, not every region in the country needs to be represented in the playoffs. MLB doesn't need multi-tier playoffs that resemble the nightmare of the NHL. Simply, whoever wins the most games should go to the playoffs and the whole process should be streamlined.
I know that the 2011 Cardinals are not the worst example of a team with a relatively low number of wins making it to the World Series; if I remember correctly, that dubious honor goes to the 1987 Twins. Still, the Cards shouldn't be there. Baseball's playoff structure is a travesty and it unfairly rewards teams that get hot at the very end of the year.
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What Joe said... but lets not use Adam Dunn as the example.. lets use Ortiz.
When bosox play interleague game at home they get to play Ortiz, NL team plays its best utility bat (still not as good as a DH in most cases).
Sure in the NL parks the AL has to bat a pitcher that normally doesnt bat... but what are you really giving up from a pitchers at bat compared to what the AL team is gaining when having the NL team visit.
I was using Dunn as a comparison to an AL pitcher, and Neifi as a comparison to an NL pitcher... one with theoretically better batting abilities.
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Agree, Furio. The watered-down playoff structure has to go. Or at the very least, make the Division Series a best-of-seven. It's too easy for lesser teams to take 3-of-5.
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I kind of like ONE extra tier, ie ALCS, then WS.
Maybe you could do it with two leagues, balanced schedule, and top 2 teams go into playoffs? Even that's unfair to the top team to an extent though.
Although I'm not sure I give a s h i t. I want to be entertained, and I like watching playoff baseball. . . so suck it purists.
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I'd rather watch curling than the WS.
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Home field advantage in the WS should be determined by a complex algorithm based primarily on the hotness of the players' wives.
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Lefty reliever Arthur Rhodes of the St. Louis Cardinals is sitting pretty in this World Series. After twenty years pitching with no World Series rings, this year he is guaranteed TWO of them.
He started out the season as a member of the Texas Rangers and after his release in early August by Texas he signed with the Cardinals. This means he will receive BOTH a winner's and loser's 2011 World Series ring and will receive World Series shares from both the Cardinals and the Rangers.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=sh-henson_arthur_rhodes_world_series_ring_101811 (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=sh-henson_arthur_rhodes_world_series_ring_101811)
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What an ugly game for a world series. Very sloppy!
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But what a game it's turned out to b. Reminds me of 1986 Series
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But what a game it's turned out to b. Reminds me of 1986 Series
Reminds me of the 1991 World Series where Kirby Puckett won Game 6 with a lead-off walk-off HR in the bottom of the 11th inning.
Joe Buck even used his father Jack's call of "And we'll see you tomorrow night!" when Freese hit the homer in the 11th. Jack used the same words when Kirby hit the game-winning HR in the Metrodome in Game 6.
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I turned the game off when the Rangers were up 7-4 and thought that was enough for them to win. Never imagined waking up to find the Cards kept fighting back and won it in extras. If the Cards win tonight the Rangers have no one to blame but themselves. Up until the time I turned the game off it seemed the Cards were doing everything they could to hand the game to the Rangers. It seems the pitching in general has been really bad throughout this postseason.
Hope Game 7 is just as exciting tonight.
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I like the guy who dons the Scrabble box hat when Rzepczynski comes in. But that's just me.
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Heh, now that is funny. Gives me a reason to try and watch tonight.
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I hate the wild card, but I have to admit it would enjoyable to see the Cub's fans petty reactions if the Cards win again. Besides, I don't think the Rangers can close the deal after last night.
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Well, we all know the team with the best performance in the 1st week of the season will be tonight's winner... ;)
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Congrats to the Cardinals. They don't have high payrolls like the Yankees and Red Sox or even the Cubs in their own division yet they continually succeed. 11 world titles now and the 2nd in the last 5 years alone. What I wouldn't give for the White Sox to have even half of that success.
Although I'll always treasure the fact that we got to see our team win a World Series, it still to this day bugs me that we didn't win it at home and get to see our crowd go nuts. We had to win it at an indoor, boring stadium.
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I hate the wild card, but I have to admit it would enjoyable to see the Cub's fans petty reactions if the Cards win again.
Petty indeed. Facebook posts all over: "Stupid Cardinals, Cub fans deserve a world series more", "let them enjoy their last one for awhile, now that we have Theo we're going to be the NL C powerhouse", "they cheated because they called a rainout the other day so that Carpenter could pitch game 7."
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That last one was really good. Typical of dilusional Cub fans
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So, Do the Rangers not have a defensive replacement for Cruz in RF, or is he just their version of Quentin? Everything is always all about the bats.
Cost them the championship....
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MLB 'tweet':
MLB MLB
#Game7 averaged 25.4 million viewers on @MLBONFOX, making it most watched @MLB game since '04 Red Sox won Game 4 to clinch #WorldSeries.
12 minutes ago
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laughed at this 'tweet':
@AlbertBrooks Los Angeles
Filmmaker, actor, now author Albert Brooks. Tweeting against my will to shamelessly promote my new book coming out in May. http://amzn.to/gUl6Fb
http://www.albertbrooks.com
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Just got home. DON'T tell me who won the Series. Have tivo'd entire MLB season and about to watch it.
14 hours ago
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Did anyone catch the shots of Nolan Ryan's face on TV when it became increasingly evident that the Rangers weren't going to win Game 7? Priceless.
I wasn't going to watch any of the series, but I did decide to catch that final game, and now I'm glad I did because I got to see Ryan's "I'm trying really hard not to show the agony of defeat" face.
Bite it, Nolan. Tough crap.
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New topic to discuss the 2012 Wild Card games, ALDS, NLDS, ALCS, NLCS and the World Series.
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The Sox ain't in it. What's to discuss?
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Wagers!
I'll take Cincinnati vs. Oakland
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Baltimore vs. Atlanta
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Baltimore vs. Washington
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Baltimore vs. Washington
Because we could use some more conflict in that region...
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Because we could use some more conflict in that region...
It's been that way in that area since time began! Why not stir the pot?
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Valverde'd!
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Heh
I'm so torn - I don't want to see either of those teams advance. Maybe a meteor will strike.
Go Yanks!
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I don't have a hatred for the A's like some of you guys do (except for those hideous uniform colors) so I find myself kind of pulling for the low-payroll team with no star powere that no one expected to be there. However, should the Tigers advance it gives the AL Central a little more credibility. Would have made our division look even worse if the al c division winner went down meekly in 3 games.
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I'm with Rule there.
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When is Justin Verlander's contract up? Ugh, that guy is such a beast.
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When is Justin Verlander's contract up? Ugh, that guy is such a beast.
I'm pretty sure never. Officially, it's 2014, but I'm reasonably certain that Mike Illitch will pay whatever it takes to keep him in a Tigers' uniform forever.
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Boooo!!!!
Go Yanks!
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I'm reasonably certain that Mike Illitch will pay whatever it takes to keep him in a Tigers' uniform forever.
I know. I just remember reading something once before where Verlander said he was very interested in testing the free agent market when he's available. Just stinks that the Tigers truly not only have the best pitcher in the game but the best hitter in the game, too.
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Go Yanks!
That's traitor talk where I come from.
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Yeah, pretty much anything other than that.
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How sick are the Nationals fans feeling this morning? The Strasburg ordeal aside, they had every chance in the world to advance to the NLCS. They had an early 6-0 lead and still had a 2-run lead going into the 9th. The Cardinals, on the other hand, have to be my 2nd favorite team. I have some family that lives in St. Louis so I've always liked them for that reason, but still, that organization is so successful and for the most part they have a team that's easy to root for....not to mention a great fan base!
I don't like either of the AL teams so I'm pulling for the Cards all the way now. I just don't like the Giants at all for some reason so if the Cards get eliminated, this will be a boring World Series for me.
As for the Tigers-Yankees, go Yanks.
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I am for the Yanks/Cards now. Either one. As you said, Cardinals have a great fan base, maybe 2nd best to the Yankees. Great organization from top down.
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SoxRule, you forgot to include that the only thing that p i s s e s off Cub fans more than seeing the Cards in the WS is the Sox being there. So since the Sox didn't make it ...
Sauce for the Goose, as they say!
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Heh, that's just a bonus, PW. I really do like the Cards' organization. The Cubs wish to be them one day! ;D
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And I'll add that I would love for the Sox to be like them someday, too.
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Cards w/out PooHoles. Definitely.
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How sick are the Nationals fans feeling this morning?
I was at the game and it was as devestateing to me as any Sox loss ever. To be in that park with everyone so thrilled at one moment expecting a clincher, and riot cop/horses lining up outside the park, then see it snatched away with the other team winning was absolutely devestating.
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Rizzo deserves all the grief he gets. What an absolute travesty to sit Strasburg. The Braves kept Medlen in relief until midseason to keep his innings down, but he was available for playoffs. Not that Rizzo should not have made sure his innings were kept to a certain amount, but be smarter than to have him miss the playoffs. And that bunk that playoff innings are even tougher on the arm, what a crock.
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Might as well have been calling him Jon Garland there.
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Cards w/out PooHoles. Definitely.
Agreed 1000%
To be in that park with everyone so thrilled at one moment expecting a clincher, and riot cop/horses lining up outside the park, then see it snatched away with the other team winning was absolutely devestating.
Reminiscent of another playoff series. Back in 2003. Heh.
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HA! So you WERE at Wrigley Field in 2003....
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But in 2003, the cubs were never within one strike to win it, they were a few innings away. Nats and fans watched about 10 potential end of game pitches where on each one of them they could have won it. And on each pitch the dugout was poised to run out on the field if a strike was called.
I don't think that has ever happened.
msf, agree with you on Rizzo, but I think Strassburg probably would not have made a difference the way things worked out. It was a case of nearly an entire bullpen faltering, and Gio, Zimmerman, and Edwin sucking.
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I think the nearly-clinching thing happened in the WS last year, no?
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Could be, but it seemed there were more potential game ending pitches last night, with three batters after two outs seeing lots of pitches.
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Yankees just got hosed, but people tell me that's what makes baseball good... is that the umpires inadvertently screw people over all of the time.
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that's what makes baseball good... is that the umpires inadvertently screw people over all of the time.
Is this like a "guess the moran commentator" game? If so, I'm going to go with Harold Reynolds. I was tempted to say Joe Morgan, but it just seemed a bit too obvious.
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No, it was a dig at the sanctimonious sportswriters who've decided that the "human element" should supersede things like the accuracy of calls in crucial situations.
Give managers the ability to challenge a call, have the umpires look at a video replay (that takes 30 seconds, max), and make a decision. It's a heck of a lot faster than managers and umpires yelling at each other for 3 minutes.
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The obvious flaw in Joeconners argument is that it pre-suposses that the manager on the losing side of a replay, or changed call, won't then proceed to argue for 3 minute. Or longer.
Because just knowing the call was made off a replay would have pacified Billy Martin
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What grounds would he have to argue it on?
Heck - let the managers watch the replay with the umpires.
Have you seen the reversed home run calls get argued for 3 minutes (or longer)? It's reviewed, reversed, and that's it.
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Besides... at that point, what's left to argue?
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Argue about which bar they would meet in after the ballgame.
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What grounds would he have to argue it on?
Heck - let the managers watch the replay with the umpires.
Have you seen the reversed home run calls get argued for 3 minutes (or longer)? It's reviewed, reversed, and that's it.
Sorry Joe, but Loveland has a point. Using football's replay as an example,
ask Coach Shaw of Stanford if his RB got in the end zone on the final play of the ND game.
Replay said he didn't.
Replay doesn't automatically kill the controversy. Sometimes, it makes it worse.
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What grounds would he have to argue it on?
Heck - let the managers watch the replay with the umpires.
Have you seen the reversed home run calls get argued for 3 minutes (or longer)? It's reviewed, reversed, and that's it.
Sorry Joe, but Loveland has a point. Using football's replay as an example,
ask Coach Shaw of Stanford if his RB got in the end zone on the final play of the ND game.
Replay said he didn't.
Replay doesn't automatically kill the controversy. Sometimes, it makes it worse.
Shoddy excuse... it exists to help get the call right... 99% of the time they get it right on replay...
Not putting it into place just because they MIGHT screw it up twice is... a stretch.
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What Method said.
Besides - the Stanford - ND call is a completely separate beast. It was ruled that the play was whistled dead. Once the whistle blows, it doesn't matter what transpires after that. The play is dead.
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I'm not making an excuse not to do it. I don't think Loveland was either.
I think we're both simply stating that the idea of replay ending controversy or arguments with the umpire is false.
It won't necessarily speed up games, and depending on how implemented will just extend them.
How many replays does each team get to ask for? If it's up to the umpires, what constitutes a reviewable play?
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I think that the fans should be able to request that a call be reviewed by throwing sh1t on the field.
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Only if they don't have a video screen at the ballpark.
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Thumbs up or down and someone counts.
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Thumbs up or down and someone counts.
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I have been a WSox die hard for 48 years. I will still root hard for them till the end.
But I may be converting to another team, only to deal with the pain Friday night gave me. I think the amount of pain you face following a team increases the loyalty you have towards them. So Cubs loyalty is finally understood.
This from the Trbune
For those of you not following the baseball playoffs, the way the Washington Nationals lost the fifth and deciding game of their division playoff series against the St. Louis Cardinals certainly ranks right up there with the most fan-disappointing defeats in sporting history.
The Nats were leading 6-0 after three innings But the Cards chipped away and, finally, with 4 runs in the top of the 9th, took a 9-7 lead and won the game.
Aggravating factors for shell-shocked fans:
1. Expectations. The Nats held the best regular-season record in either league.
2. Precedent. TV announcers told us that no team in baseball history playing in a do-or-die game had ever come back from a deficit greater than 4-0.
3. A local history of baseball futility: Cub fans arguably have it worse -- no World Series victories in more than 100 years. But Washington's various MLB teams have won just one Series, in 1924, and the Senators/Nationals have an even greater tradition of wretchedness.
4. Whiplash. This was no slow-motion fade down the stretch, like the 1969 Cubs or the 2012 White Sox, but a roller-coaster plunge from high to low. When the Cardinals had 2 out and just 1 runner on base in the 9th and were still trailing 7-5, history said they had just a 4 percent chance of coming back to win the game.
It was so bad that I felt terrible for Nationals fans even though I paid almost no attention to the team all year.
Bill Barnwell at Grantland captured the feeling:
There were five different two-strike pitches in the ninth inning, in which the Nationals had a chance to finish the game with a victory.....I'll remember the game-winning hit, though, until the day I die. When Kozma singled through the hole into right, the entire crowd went silent. So silent, in fact, that the screams of celebration from the Cardinals bench were easy to hear in the upper deck. ....I've never heard anything like that in a lifetime of going to games....
At the end of the night, I found myself downtown in a bar with my friends. The one Nats fan in our group was more despondent than most, and we led him over to the jukebox to play some appropriate music. Most of his selections didn't last long. "Everybody Hurts" was cut off by the bartender after a minute. "I Am Trying to Break Your Heart" faded out somewhere around 90 seconds. What did make through, though, was the Johnny Cash cover of "Hurt." By the time the chorus rolled around, in fact, the half of the bar that was adorned in Nats attire had joined in and turned it into a sardonic, wistful sing-along.
So what other memorable collapses in sports rival this one?
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Verlander's "show" in the all-star game has quite possibly cost his team home field advantage in the world series.
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Who cares... he's basically carried them to the WS. 8-1 to end the regular season. and now 3 dominating starts in the play-offs.
I know MSF will disagree... but he is by far the best player on that team... even with miggy on there.
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99% of the time I take the every day player. But Verlander makes that very, very tough to do. But I will stick with my plan.
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Who cares... he's basically carried them to the WS.
Woah, settle down. Didn't mean to offend you. I don't disagree in the slightest that Verlander is the best player on that team. Hell, he's one of the very best players in the game. But it is still nice to have home field advantage for any series and I just found it ironic that Detroit could very well have had that if Verlander didn't want to show off.
I think they're still very capable of winnig the world series regardless and who knows if the AL would have won the all star game even if Verlander was at his best that day....just pointing out the irony, is all.
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I think the talk of him showing off is a tad over-stated... he had an off day against an all-star squad.
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What Method said.
Plus, does home field advantage actually give you anything?
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I think the talk of him showing off is a tad over-stated... he had an off day against an all-star squad.
He stated after the game that he was putting on a show for the fans:
"I was able to laugh at it right away," Verlander said after leaving the game. "Obviously, you don't want to go out like that, but I had fun. That's why I don't try to throw 100 (mph) in the first inning, but this is for the fans. It doesn't usually work out too well for me."
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"I know this game means something and you don't want to give up runs, but we're here for the fans," Verlander said. "I know the fans don't want to see me throw 90 and try to hit the corners."
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Regardless, does home field advantage in the WS even matter?
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I think this Tigers team is clicking so well right now that no, it probably does not matter. However, at the time of the all-star game I would say that it did. For most of the season the Tigers were a much better team at home than on the road. Not to mention that it lends to the possibility of extra home games and thus extra revenue for your organization.
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Regardless, does home field advantage in the WS even matter?
I typically think it does. Especially for dome teams, like the Twins had a serious homefield advantage with the noise they generated in 1987 and 1991.
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I think this Tigers team is clicking so well right now
A little props to the Sox for that, I'd say.
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Who cares... he's basically carried them to the WS. 8-1 to end the regular season. and now 3 dominating starts in the play-offs.
I know MSF will disagree... but he is by far the best player on that team... even with miggy on there.
Insane. Cabrera is the MVP of that team. Best hitter in the game how was at his best in the second half. Scherzer was every bit as good as Verlander down the stretch as well.
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I believe Verlander was 8-3 to finish season. Scherzer 10-2
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Scherzer was good at the end as well... But Verlander did it all year long, and finished very strong, just went 130 pitches yesterday for a win.
Scherzer crumbled at the end of the year with a dead arm... only went 2 innings one start, 4 the one after. so far in the post season hes pitcher 5 innings vs 24 for verlander.
Max did well at the end of the year... but hes not in Verlander's league, might get there in a couple years.
Cant argue that miggy didnt have a great year... i just hink verlander is a better player and the one i'd rather have imbl.
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Well I think it's funny Rule.
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Well I think it's funny Rule.
Ha. Take that, boys. Loveland agrees with me! ;D
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Scherzer with a decent start today.
4-0 Tigers in the 4th
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Tigers sweep.
Fury must be really suffering
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Disgusting.
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At least the criticism of the "weak" AL Central Division has died down.
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Not sure which is worse: Bashing the AL Central as weak if Detroit had been eliminated, or having to listen to the sportsclones fawn over Verlander and Cabrera because they made it to the Series. This is Baltimore's fault.
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I have hardly heard a peep out of the media about Detroit.
I've just been told that somebody beat the Yankees. Good for them, whoever managed to do that.
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AJ the in-studio analyst... they're talking about the Chris Carpenter play from a few games ago where he and Allen Craig got mixed up.
Everyone else is sitting there saying, "Carpenter should have stepped this way to throw to first," or "Craig screwed the play up by coming in toward the ball initially."
AJ (the last to speak) just says, "guys - this is an easy play. The base runner is inside the line, all he has to do is hit the runner in the back with the ball. It's a dumb rule, but that's the rule. He'll be out every time."
Gotta love AJ.
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Have I expressed how much I hate the playoff structure? It only rewards the teams that get hot at the end, not those that were consistently good all season. A one-game playoff to decide the wild-card berth? An initial playoff series (best of five) that takes only three wins to advance? All of those contests can be fluky. One-game playoffs and short series are not true measures of a team's talent.
NO. Go back to two divisions in each league. Eliminate the stupid Wild Cards (and contract MLB to 28 teams or even 24 while we're at it; not every town in the US deserves a MLB team). The winners of each league's division, the ones with the highest regular-season win total (wow, what a concept) play in a best-of-seven series (not best of five). Then, the pennant winners go to the World Series (best of seven, or hell, make it best of nine to make sure the best team really does take it all).
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And oh yeah, Go Giants!
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It only rewards the teams that get hot at the end
But if a team happens to get hot at the right time (in the playoffs) why shouldn't they be rewarded? If they're hot and keep winning, their wins aren't any less deserving just because the opposing team had a better run during the season. Why penalize a team just because they got hot at the absolute best time? That doesn't seem very fair, imo.
And also, if the other team was more consistently good during the season, they should be just as good now. If not, oh well. That's baseball. That's why the games are played on the field, not on paper.
Just my opinion..
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But if a team happens to get hot at the right time (in the playoffs) why shouldn't they be rewarded?
So the first 140, 150, 160 games shouldn't count?
I almost feel like with the way the playoffs are structured, with so many teams that have a chance, just give all teams an arbitrary .500 regular season record and skip right to the playoffs.
What they're doing now in baseball reeks too much of football. One game means too much. Baseball is supposed to be a marathon, with the good teams hanging in 'til the end.
The Tigers were totally opportunistic at the end of this year but weren't very good all season long.
I have a bit of a problem with an 87- or 88-win team being considered the best in baseball.
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I guess I just see it differently. The regular season record is what it takes to get to the postseason. Once you're in, anything can happen. So yeah, the Tigers were mediocre most of the season but they always had a good team and are now clicking at the best possible time. I see nothing wrong with saying they're the best team in baseball if they win the world series, regardless of their regular season record.
Give them credit, they manned-up when it counted. (I don't know if manned-up is a word but you know what I mean).
And by the way, if the Sox were in the exact same situation as the Tigers now, I'd have a problem with people questioning our team being in the world series. My response would be what I said above, "hey, we're hot and playing great ball and we deserve to be there."
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I kinda agree with Fury..
Short series favor teams that are top heavy in talent but have a glaring weakness... ie Detroit...
It should be about the best team period... ie '05 white sox.
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I sort of like the 1 game wild card game. But I believe the next round should start at 7 games, no more 5 games series. Wild card team gets hurt a bit in that they cannot go with their ace 3 times in that 7 game series, assuming they used him in the 1 game playoff.
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I entirely agree with Fury. Well said.
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But I believe the next round should start at 7 games, no more 5 games series.
I do agree that each round should be a 7-game series.
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So I admit that I pay very little attention to the Giants so I don't know much about them but I do know who Tim Lincecum is. He's now in the bullpen? What happened to him?
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He lost "it."
Whatever "it" was, he lost it....
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That's it? No injury speculation or anything? He just one day was not that good of a pitcher anymore?
Maybe the guy was getting a big ego or something and this was the baseball gods' way of humbling him.
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Too many innings. They moved him to the BP and he seems to have gotten "it" back.
This year his FB was down... and he was steadily killing my fantasy team.
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The regular season record is what it takes to get to the postseason. Once you're in, anything can happen.
I'm with Fury on this one. The road to the WS should be harder for the teams with lower records.
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If we are going to go the hockey/basketball route. Chop the season to 140 games and let in the top 8 teams in each league... then have a second season worth of playoff games... hah.
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I'm a bit surprised that the Tigers went with Fister instead of Scherzer for Game 2. I understand the desire to have Scherzer pitch the first game at Detroit, but the decision to use Fister in this all-important game could well put the Tigers in a 0-2 hole.
Not that I'd cry if that happened.
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Fister's been solid... and he proved Leyland right tonight IMO.
Bats are silent for the Tigers.
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I'm reading that Scherzer has some lingering issues with his right shoulder, that's why Leyland is delaying him until Game 4. It could be almost over by then, though. I can see the Tigers getting swept.
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Streaked just long enough to get into the playoffs aand make it through to the Series. Now the real Tigers come limping back to life.
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Culprits for Tigers' World Series demise: $44M hollow bats of Miguel Cabrera and Prince Fielder
Tim Brown - Yahoo sports
DETROIT – The San Francisco Giants are so lucky. Every time Miguel Cabrera and Prince Fielder come up, they make outs.
While the World Series trundles along under the impression the Giants get breaks while the Detroit Tigers get the pine-tarred end of the stick, a fresh explanation bloomed on a chilly Saturday night at Comerica Park.
The offensive center of the Tigers has failed them, and failed them miserably. The superstars feted en route to the World Series – one gifted a Triple Crown trophy prior to Game 3 and the other a symbol of team owner Mike Ilitch's financial and spiritual commitment to a championship – have been insignificant but for their blinding insignificance.
Together, they have three hits, all singles, in 19 at-bats against the Giants. They have left runners on base and left small deficits standing.
Save the small sample-size arguments. This is the World Series. One size fits all. The notion that the Tigers also are waiting on Jhonny Peralta and Alex Avila, that Delmon Young and Austin Jackson and Omar Infante could do more -- well, Cabrera hits third, Fielder hits behind him, and the Tigers, like any team that wishes to run it to the end, produce from the middle out.
When they produce.
read more: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/primary-culprits-for-tigers--world-series-demise---44m-hollow-bats-of-miguel-cabrera-and-prince-fielder-27131010.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/primary-culprits-for-tigers--world-series-demise---44m-hollow-bats-of-miguel-cabrera-and-prince-fielder-27131010.html)
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2012 World Series: Are Prince Fielder and Miguel Cabrera Slumping or Choking?
By Ian Casselberry (MLB Lead Writer) on October 28, 2012
Prince Fielder is on the verge of not being remembered fondly by Detroit Tigers fans this season.
The first baseman went 0-for-4 with two strikeouts in the Tigers' 2-0 loss to the San Francisco Giants in Game 3 of the World Series Saturday night (Oct. 27). He is now hitting 1-for-10 in his past three games, failing to produce when the Tigers need it most.
Fielder became a Detroit sports fan favorite the moment he signed a nine-year, $214 million contract with the Tigers in late January. He further endeared himself to Tiger Town by bringing some joy to the team by sharing jubilant postgame handshakes and celebrations with Miguel Cabrera.
Oh, and Fielder also hit .313 with a .940 OPS, 30 home runs and 108 RBI. That made him pretty popular with Tigers fans.
All of that is quickly being forgotten with Fielder's feeble postseason performance—especially with how poorly he's played in the World Series. Including his hitless Game 3, Fielder is now batting .188 (9-for-48) in the playoffs with one home run and three RBI.
Considering how he's playing when the stakes are highest and a World Series championship was within reach, Fielder might have the dreaded "choker" label affixed to him after this season is finished.
read more: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1387211-2012-world-series-are-prince-fielder-and-miguel-cabrera-slumping-or-choking (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1387211-2012-world-series-are-prince-fielder-and-miguel-cabrera-slumping-or-choking)
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Congratulations to the Detroit Tigers for being the first American League team to be swept in the World Series in 22 years!
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Kind of ironic that going into the season the Tigers' strength was supposed to be their offense. In the World Series, their pitching was pretty darn good outside of the Verlander start, and the bats were completely silent.
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http://deadspin.com/5955765/sergio-romo-struck-out-miguel-cabrera-with-the-ballsiest-pitch-of-the-world-series
URL says it all....
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It's finally over? Cool.
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URL says it all....
http://deadspin.com/5955686/csn-interviewed-matt-cain-while-a-urinating-ryan-theriot-looked-on
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Fury, what's the general feeling in Detroit regarding Fielder? There was an article in the ST that seemed to suggest that fans were turning on him after his abysmal postseason.
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Lincecum started all year, he was odd man out from their 5 man rotation, they decided on Cain, Zito and those other two guys.
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Lik
Kind of ironic that going into the season the Tigers' strength was supposed to be their offense. In the World Series, their pitching was pretty darn good outside of the Verlander start, and the bats were completely silent.
Shoeless Joe they need to investigate them for throwing the series
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Fury, what's the general feeling in Detroit regarding Fielder? There was an article in the ST that seemed to suggest that fans were turning on him after his abysmal postseason.
There were a lot of disgruntled, frustrated fans during the Series. I think they were dumbfounded about the whole Tigers offense.
But I think they're willing to acknowledge that either the Tigers' offense finally ran out of gas or just couldn't solve the Giants' pitching for some reason. I'm not aware of any lasting grudge carrying on against Fielder in particular.
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They should be glad they got there at all. Without our collapse Prince was watching on his couch.
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They should be glad they got there at all. Without our collapse Prince was watching on his couch.
Yep, I'm with you. The '12 Tigers simply weren't a very good team. Quite a few good individual players, but a mediocre team.
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They should be glad they got there at all. Without our collapse Prince was watching on his couch.
Yep, I'm with you. The '12 Tigers simply weren't a very good team. Quite a few good individual players, but a mediocre team.
I read they are the favorites for Torri Hunter, along with the Dodgers. Hate to see him in RF for the Tiggers.
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Jon Morosi @jonmorosi
Sources: Free agent outfielder Torii Hunter is meeting with #Tigers officials in Detroit today. @MLBONFOX
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With the postseason starting tomorrow, this topic is now update & out of mothballs. Also the "Today's Game" topic is locked until the night before opening day 2014.
MLB 2013 postseason schedule: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/schedule/ps.jsp (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/schedule/ps.jsp)
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Booooo!!! I wanted to comment in the Today's Game thread.
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Booooo!!! I wanted to comment in the Today's Game thread.
He who hesitates is lost.
The 2013 White Sox / Sox Management topic is still open for your comments.
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A big thank you to Alex Cobb and the Tampa Bay Rays for wiping the $hit eating grin from Nick Swisher's face.
Good night Cleveland, see you next year!
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cobb-rays-roll-4-0-035046607--mlb.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/cobb-rays-roll-4-0-035046607--mlb.html)
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A's top Tigers 6-3 for 2-1 AL division series lead
NOAH TRISTER (AP Sports Writer) 34 minutes ago AP - Sports
DETROIT (AP) -- Turns out the Oakland Athletics don't need a brilliant pitching performance to beat Detroit.
They can outslug the Tigers too.
Brandon Moss, Josh Reddick and Seth Smith homered for the Athletics, who chased Anibal Sanchez in the fifth inning Monday and defeated the Tigers 6-3 for a 2-1 AL division series lead.
Moss broke a 3-all tie in the fifth with a solo shot, and Smith's two-run drive later in the inning ended Sanchez's day. It was an impressive offensive show after the teams split two tense, low-scoring games in Oakland.
The A's can close out the series Tuesday and reach the AL championship series for the first time since 2006 - when they were swept by the Tigers. Oakland will send rookie Dan Straily to the mound against Detroit's Doug Fister.
''It was exciting for Brandon to get us on the board,'' Smith said. ''It was nice to score some runs and get back on top there.''
Sanchez, the American League's ERA leader, allowed six runs - five earned - and eight hits in 4 1-3 innings. Smith has homered off Sanchez more than any other player, having now done it twice in the regular season and twice in the postseason.
There was activity in the Detroit bullpen before Smith's homer Monday, and he made the Tigers pay for sticking with the struggling Sanchez.
''Sometimes he starts out a little slow, you figure he's going to get it going,'' Detroit manager Jim Leyland said. ''Today he just really didn't get it going. He made a couple of real bad pitches the last inning he was out there to Moss and Smith.''
read more: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/top-tigers-6-3-2-204157973--mlb.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/top-tigers-6-3-2-204157973--mlb.html)
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Can't believe I've found myself pulling for Oakland. Is this some kind of alternate universe?
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I'm hoping for a Red Sox - Dodgers World Series now.
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StL vs Detroit for me.
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I'm with Fury. Stupid A's.
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Boston holds off Tigers 1-0 behind Lackey, bullpen
By NOAH TRISTER (AP Baseball Writer) 6 minutes ago
DETROIT (AP) -- John Lackey edged Justin Verlander in the latest duel of these pitching-rich playoffs, and Boston's bullpen shut down Detroit's big boppers with the game on the line to lift the Red Sox over the Tigers 1-0 Tuesday for a 2-1 lead in the AL championship series.
Mike Napoli homered off Verlander in the seventh inning, and Detroit's best chance to rally fell short in the eighth when Miguel Cabrera and Prince Fielder struck out with runners at the corners.
Despite three straight gems by their starters, the Tigers suddenly trail in a best-of-seven series they seemed to have complete control of only two days ago. Game 4 is Wednesday night at Comerica Park, with Jake Peavy scheduled to start for the Red Sox against Doug Fister.
Lackey allowed four hits in 6 2-3 innings, striking out eight without a walk in a game that was delayed 17 minutes in the second inning because lights on the stadium towers went out.
It was the second 1-0 game in this matchup between the highest-scoring teams in the majors. That's been the theme throughout these playoffs, which have included four 1-0 scores and seven shutouts in the first 26 games.
After rallying from a five-run deficit to even the series in Game 2, Boston came away with a win in Detroit against one of the game's best pitchers. The Tigers had a chance for their own comeback in the eighth when Austin Jackson drew a one-out walk and Torii Hunter followed with a single.
But Cabrera, who failed to reach base for the first time in 32 postseason games for the Tigers, never looked comfortable against Junichi Tazawa, swinging and missing at the first two offerings and eventually chasing an outside pitch for strike three.
Fielder was even more overmatched against Koji Uehara, striking out on three pitches.
Uehara also pitched the ninth for a save, ensuring that Lackey's fine performance wouldn't go to waste.
Lackey pitched poorly his first two seasons in Boston after signing an $82.5 million, five-year contract in December 2009. Then he missed all of 2012 following elbow ligament-replacement surgery.
He's been better this season, and he kept the Tigers off balance Tuesday by effectively changing speeds.
Napoli's first at-bat in the majors was against Verlander on May 4, 2006, at Detroit's Comerica Park. He homered then, too.
This hit was far more important. In the last two games, the Tigers have started Verlander and 21-game winner Max Scherzer - and the Red Sox won both.
Throw in Anibal Sanchez's outstanding effort in the opener, when the Red Sox managed only a ninth-inning single in a 1-0 loss, and Detroit's three starters in the ALCS have combined to allow two runs and six hits with 35 strikeouts in 21 innings.
read more: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boston-holds-off-tigers-1-234944344--mlb.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boston-holds-off-tigers-1-234944344--mlb.html)
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Matchup of top teams makes Fall Classic special
Storied franchises sporting baseball's best records give World Series a throwback feel
By Anthony Castrovince | 10/20/2013 1:51 A.M. ET
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In opposition of the warped significance of regular-season standings wrought by the Wild Card era, this 2013 World Series matchup is a reminder of what once was.
The St. Louis Cardinals won 97 games this season, surviving a division battle that included two other postseason teams. They were, according to the raw records resulting from the 162-game grind, the best team in the National League.
The Boston Red Sox won 97 games, surviving a division battle that included one other postseason team and two additional clubs with winning records. They were, according to the raw math of 162, the best team in the American League.
Now, fresh off their mutual Game 6 satisfaction, they'll meet in a Fall Classic that is as much about the best teams in baseball as it is about the hottest.
This sort of thing never seems to happen anymore.
In fact, in the Wild Card era, dating back to 1995, there have been only been two times in which the teams with each league's best record met in October -- 1995 (Braves and Indians) and '99 (Yankees and Braves). In that sense, what we're about to witness, beginning Wednesday night at Fenway Park (8:07 p.m. ET first pitch, 7:30 air time on FOX), is something of a throwback, and the fact that it involves two storied franchises with such extensive October history makes it all the better.
But because unbalanced schedules will always lend themselves to varying interpretations of "best," perhaps we ought to just view this World Series for what it really is: a celebration of two of the most expertly operated organizations in baseball.
People will call this a "rematch" of the 2004 World Series, but that's barely true. David Ortiz is the last remaining link to Boston's band of "Idiots," and Yadier Molina, then just a rookie backstop backup to now-manager Mike Matheny, is the last remaining link to that NL pennant winner.
Even if you want to tie these teams to their organization's most recent World Series incarnation, it's a tenuous link, at best. Ortiz, Dustin Pedroia, Jacoby Ellsbury and Jon Lester are the only guys around now who were on the roster when the Red Sox won it all in '07. And though the Cards won it all just two Octobers ago, they have 19 different guys on this 25-man roster than the one that launched that incredible comeback against the Rangers, with Molina, David Freese, Matt Holliday, Daniel Descalso, Jon Jay and Lance Lynn the only holdovers.
So, what does that tell you? It tells you these clubs reload like few others do.
They had to reload recently. The Cardinals entered the season with rampant questions in a rotation that lost Chris Carpenter to injury (and with Kyle Lohse departed in free agency, the Cards were especially hopeful for a healthy return for Carpenter after his 2012 woes) and had Jaime Garcia pitching with a bum shoulder. Yes, the Redbirds still had a lineup so deep it would have fit just fine in the AL, but a common consensus was that the Reds looked a little bit more polished and prone for October (anybody who tells you they saw the Pirates coming is lying).
And the Red Sox? Too many questions to count. They faced the daunting prospect of going from worst to first, and their method of doing so was to make relatively short-term investments in aging talent (re-upping with Big Papi and bringing in Shane Victorino, Mike Napoli, Ryan Dempster, Jonny Gomes and David Ross ), all while hoping for a bountiful bounceback from the likes of Lester, Clay Buchholz and John Lackey.
read more: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/matchup-of-baseballs-top-teams-makes-world-series-special?ymd=20131020&content_id=63171408&vkey=news_mlb (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/mlb/matchup-of-baseballs-top-teams-makes-world-series-special?ymd=20131020&content_id=63171408&vkey=news_mlb)
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John Hirschbeck is crew chief for World Series
2 hours ago AP - Sports
BOSTON (AP) -- John Hirschbeck will umpire his fourth World Series and will be crew chief for the matchup between the Boston Red Sox and the St. Louis Cardinals.
Hirschbeck will be behind the plate for Wednesday night's opener at Fenway Park, with Mark Wegner at first, Dana DeMuth at second, Paul Emmel at third, Bill Miller in left and Jim Joyce in right. Hirschbeck also worked the Series in 1995 and 2006 and was crew chief in 2010.
DeMuth will be working his fourth Series and Joyce his third but first since 2001. This will be the second Series for Miller and the first for Emmel and Wegner.
Umpires will continue to wear ''WB'' patches honoring umpire Wally Bell, who died Oct. 14. Bell umped the 2006 World Series and this year's All-Star game.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/john-hirschbeck-crew-chief-world-164647947--mlb.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/john-hirschbeck-crew-chief-world-164647947--mlb.html)
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Just wondering, and maybe some of you in-the-knows out there can answer this:
Just about everybody who has some degree of baseball acumen thinks that Buck and McCarver are the biggest jokes as baseball announcers. The amount of fawning, hyperbole, and overstating the obvious approaches Joe Morgan territory. So why does the network continue to hand over the annual job to these two major ass-clowns?
I figure if it was my job to staff the position, I'd listen to what the people are saying and speculate I might attract more viewers if they didn't have to suffer through their endless prattle.
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I think this is McCarver's last year, for what its worth.
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There's a good reason MLB and Fox like McCarver and Buck with their fawning, hyperbole, and overstating the obvious approaches Joe Morgan territory
Real baseball fans will tune in no matter who announces, and non baseball fans need that because they don't understand the obvious. So they increase the viewers.
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Red Sox blast Game 3 loss as a 'joke,' but umpires made right call
By Tim Brown - 12 hours ago - Yahoo Sports
ST. LOUIS – When they'd lost on a technicality, in the pages of a rule book and in the literal act of trying to get back to their feet, the Boston Red Sox blamed the umpires, and there's no harm in that, no matter that the umpires were right and the Red Sox were not.
They'd left the field confused, but quite sure they'd been wronged, so those who were not confused were just blind mad, and as a result didn't even know which umpire to hang with the offending call, the call that rightfully ended Game 3 of the World Series.
What the Red Sox knew is they'd been obstructed from playing the 10th inning, a detail that sat on their souls like an anvil, which, by rule, would be obstruction if the anvil were attempting to go home from third base on a wild throw with two out in the ninth inning of the most important baseball game of the season so far.
Upstairs, on the top concourse at Busch Stadium, one wrung-out St. Louis Cardinals fan turned to another and said, "I don't know, this one feels kind of dirty, doesn't it?"
The other Cardinals fan stared at him like he'd grown another head, and it was Willie McGee's.
"No," he said.
The Red Sox are on their own with this, with the chaotic final play that ended with Allen Craig being thrown out at home plate but not. And Will Middlebrooks being face-down in the dirt and in the way. And two two-run leads overcome but meaningless. Craig fell over Middlebrooks, third-base umpire Jim Joyce pointed, Craig ran toward home and the right team won, even if it was in a very hollow way. World Series games are supposed to end with a ball in the gap, or a back-door slider on the black. Not with umpires reciting rulebooks.
read more: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/red-sox-blast-game-3-loss-as-a--joke---but-umpires-made-right-call-065018583.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/red-sox-blast-game-3-loss-as-a--joke---but-umpires-made-right-call-065018583.html)
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Just about everybody who has some degree of baseball acumen thinks that Buck and McCarver are the biggest jokes as baseball announcers
In the last inning of last night's game, they kept harping about how the Red Sox should not be holding the runner on with a two run lead and one out, "they should just give him second" "that run doesn't count" blah blah blah.
The the Carmines picked him off to end the game and they didn't say a word. I would have at least said "guess they knew something we didn't know"
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World Series Game 6 is the most expensive baseball ticket in history
By Jeff Passan - 2 hours ago - Yahoo Sports
Tickets for Game 6 of the World Series already cost more than any baseball game in history, and the bad news for those without a pair is that they're only getting more expensive.
Data from local and national ticket brokers and analysts agree: Game 6 of the World Series between the Boston Red Sox and St. Louis Cardinals, set for an 8:07 p.m. ET start at Fenway Park on Wednesday night, will be the most expensive ticket ever for a ballgame. From $900 standing-room-only stubs to a $10,000-plus seats close to the action, Red Sox fans are snapping up a dwindling inventory at record prices in hopes they'll witness something the city hasn't seen in nearly a century.
"The Red Sox have a chance to win a World Series in front of their home crowd for the first time since 1918," said Jim Holzman, president of Boston-based Ace Ticket. "Boston has the best baseball fans there are, and they want to be there to see this."
Lines snaked out the door at Ace's Kenmore Square location Tuesday, Holzman said, and the secondary market raged on broker sites across the web. By early afternoon, the average resale price for tickets sold stood at $1,024 per ticket, according to SeatGeek. Remaining ticket inventory on Internet sites was even heftier: an average of $2,186 apiece, according to TiqIQ.com, more than $300 apiece higher than a few hours earlier – although that number is likely juiced by those listing tickets for Godfather-offer prices.
The previous high for baseball since SeatGeek began tracking ticket-pricing data in 2009 is almost equivalent to the get-in cost for Game 6: $940 for Game 1 of the 2010 World Series in San Francisco. It also trumps Game 5 of the NBA Finals between the Celtics and Lakers in 2010 ($660) and will approach, with a strong possibility of passing, the Bruins' Stanley Cup Finals Game 6's in 2011 and '13 ($1,080 and $1,033, respectively), according to SeatGeek.
"This is essentially the Super Bowl in Boston," Holzman said.
read more: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mlb--world-series-game-6-is-the-most-expensive-baseball-ticket-in-history-192252713.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/mlb--world-series-game-6-is-the-most-expensive-baseball-ticket-in-history-192252713.html)
Note: As of this posting there are 1,585 tickets available on StubHub starting at $983.75 up to $11,002.00
http://www.stubhub.com/boston-red-sox-playoff-tickets/red-sox-vs-cardinals-10-30-2013-4353115/ (http://www.stubhub.com/boston-red-sox-playoff-tickets/red-sox-vs-cardinals-10-30-2013-4353115/)
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I watched Game 6 last night, or most of it anyway. It occurred to me that Boston has won the World Series three times in the last decade. That's the kind of scenario that I'd hoped to see from the White Sox after 2005. In the fall of '05, I thought we had a dynasty in the making.
But the Red Sox actually did it. If anyone but the White Sox had to win in 2013, I'm glad it was Boston, because of the tragedy surrounding the Boston Marathon earlier this year.
Think about this: the Red Sox were in last place in 2012. They turned it around to win it all in a year. Not saying the decimated White Sox can do the same, but it's not out of the question. I'd be happy with a third-place finish next year and the playoffs in '15.
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If you get the chance, watch the Obermann video in the post above about the lack of World Series viewers.
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I must be the only person who likes the A's uni's. I like green. Red and blue are over-done and boring.
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Go Bucs.
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I must be the only person who likes the A's uni's.
You're not the only one. I kinda like them too, Blackie.
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I have always liked the A's uni's, ever since Charlie O.
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This new left fielder for the O's is looking pretty good. Maybe we should sign him?
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I always liked DeAza as a hitter. Wished he had been better in the field.
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I agree msf, but De Aza in a platoon situation minimizes his deficiencies on defense. The O's are using him that way. So many teams are doing the platooning, but the White Sox insist on regulars at each and every position. That's old school. We should platoon next year at 2B, 3B, LF, and possibly catcher.
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The problem with keeping De Aza is his salary. His 2014 salary is $4.25 million and if the Orioles don't non-tender him, expect that to increase by $1 million or more in 2015 as he is arbitration eligible. That's way too much for a platoon outfielder. De Aza for $2 million would be great. De Aza for $5+ million, no thank you.
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De Aza as anything other than a beer vendor....no thank you.
I have not lost notice that KC has emphasized a lineup that puts a premium on defense, has a rather mediocre offense, and is winning.
If I recall, our 2005 team was built on pitching and defense. Our offense, while better than KC, wasn't exactly the '27 Yankees.
If we're going to have a platoon at any position, both members of said platoon had better be able to cover ground and catch the ball.
Thus, Viciedo should find an exit.
Looking for somebody who can play LF and move over to CF after the inevitable Adam Eaton IR visit?
Try this guy. He'll probably be bought out:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/spande01.shtml
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De Aza as anything other than a beer vendor....no thank you.
I have not lost notice that KC has emphasized a lineup that puts a premium on defense, has a rather mediocre offense, and is winning.
If I recall, our 2005 team was built on pitching and defense. Our offense, while better than KC, wasn't exactly the '27 Yankees.
If we're going to have a platoon at any position, both members of said platoon had better be able to cover ground and catch the ball.
Thus, Viciedo should find an exit.
Looking for somebody who can play LF and move over to CF after the inevitable Adam Eaton IR visit?
Try this guy. He'll probably be bought out:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/spande01.shtml
Yes to Span. Really think he gets bought out?
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They need to come up with a lot of cash for Stras/Harper/Zimmerman.
Span might be the odd man out. If they are smart they probably lock up Rendon now too.
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Even though I dislike Buck Showalter and hope any team he manages never wins, it's always nice to see the Detroit Tigers blow another game. Tigers down 0-2 and hopefully heading for elimination back at Comerica.
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Since the Bucs got bounced, go O's...
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it's always nice to see the Detroit Tigers blow another game
Yes, Tigers are providing me a good but of schadenfreude just now.
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Orioles sweep the Tigers!
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A big FU to Brad Asmus who should have been more concerned about his crappy bullpen than Chris Sale hitting VMart..
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Very nice....2 teams I wanted out of the postseason are gone: the Tigers and Angels. And for both to be SWEPT was even sweeter. Congrats to the Royals for representing the "lowly" AL Central well!
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Yep, I agree. The AL West not looking so tough after all.
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Fun article about how the Tigers' window is slowly closing with aging players with enormous contracts
http://www.si.com/mlb/2014/10/05/tigers-orioles-alds-2014-mlb-playoffs
Now the Sox need to do their job and build a stronger team to compete with the rest of the division.
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De Aza as anything other than a beer vendor....no thank you.
I have not lost notice that KC has emphasized a lineup that puts a premium on defense, has a rather mediocre offense, and is winning.
If I recall, our 2005 team was built on pitching and defense. Our offense, while better than KC, wasn't exactly the '27 Yankees.
If we're going to have a platoon at any position, both members of said platoon had better be able to cover ground and catch the ball.
Thus, Viciedo should find an exit.
Looking for somebody who can play LF and move over to CF after the inevitable Adam Eaton IR visit?
Try this guy. He'll probably be bought out:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/spande01.shtml
Thank You ISF. Please. please, please, people, remember this the next time you tell start telling me why we need the next bat on the team when they come with no glove and no speed.
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De Aza was okay, but I'd like to do better. Somehow.
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Like I say, I liked DeAza except for his D. Not that I think he was the worst LF we have had, but he was not good like I expected. We could do worse, wanna see Mikey Mo in LF, heh.
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AJ added to the cards NLCS roster.
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The Royales may be the Team Of Destiny.
I could live with that.
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Royals appear to have the magic.
Ned Yost and Dayton Moore are pretty reviled in the saber community... i'm rooting for them at this point. Did not appreciate their OF defense in few regular season games i saw.
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Royals appear to have the magic.
Ned Yost and Dayton Moore are pretty reviled in the saber community... i'm rooting for them at this point. Did not appreciate their OF defense in few regular season games i saw.
Royals rolling thru the playoffs like the White Sox did on 2005.
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Nice to see a Buck Showalter team swept in the ALCS.
Even nicer that he was out-managed by Ned Yost, someone many 'experts' think is a horrible manager.
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Baltimore looked really good against Detroit in the ALDS and to get swept by the Royals was surprising. Royals are on fire. Guess good pitching, speed and defense really is a good formula for winning. A couple guys got hot offensively and it's world series time.
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Smoltz, Casey and one other guy on MLB were discussing teams that hit lots of homers. More often than not they are held in check by power pitching in the playoffs. Teams like KC, SF and StL do well as they produce runs without homers typically (altho this postseason StL has hit a lot of homers).
I agree with this a lot. Homers are way, way overrated.
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Hitting lots of homers are a great way to get yourself to the dance... over a 162-game season, you've got a lot of chances to ride out the ebbs and flows of the statistical waves.
Once you're there, you better have a diverse offense, because anything goes.
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I can agree with that.
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I also hope our staff is seeing how important bullpens are these days. We need a lot of help there. No way Nathan Jones is ready until 2016. Only 2 bullpen guys I would like to see back are Petricka and Putnam. Would like to see the rest replaced.
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1Bman Travis Ishikawa was with the Sox AAA team in 2013, never thought he would end up in the majors with the numbers he was putting up. One never knows...
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Baltimore looked really good against Detroit in the ALDS and to get swept by the Royals was surprising.
Happy with either of these teams getting the WS bid, but would have preferred the Orioles. But before we all anoint the Royals the better team, don't forget that the Orioles have been playing without their All-Star catcher and 3B, plus a guy who led the league in HRs last year. Plug Wieters, Machado and Davis in that lineup and maybe the series might have gone longer or turned out different.
KC's pen has been close to unhittable though.
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Q. is a loser, how many no decisions has he had on games we went on to lose. He seems to be cursed. But once again, it's my opinion, I don't have to like him and I don't care about the stats.
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If he's cursed, then we get Jobu some rum and sacrifice a chicken...
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You can't count Davis... he was suspended for juicing.
Machado and Wieters I can agree with, though at this point it seems like Machado's just flat out injury prone.
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with all this time off from games I watched every inning of all the WSox games to the 2005 championship.
Konerko won the MVP of the ALCS, and Dye for the WS
Crede without a doubt was the real hero and MVP of ALDS,ALCS,and WS with glove and bat. Too bad his career got shortchanged.
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Astros @ Yankees
Tuesday October 6, 2015
8:00 PM ET - Yankee Stadium
ESPN
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Cubs @ Pirates
Wednesday October 7, 2015
8:00 PM ET - PNC Park
TBS
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Clayton Richard... heh...
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<snicker>
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<snicker>
You are loving it aren't you Loveland
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Yes. Enjoying tonight's game as well.
Schadenfreude.
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this will help.
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/13938163/rookie-year-actor-thomas-ian-nicholas-hopes-henry-rowengartner-bring-chicago-cubs-good-luck
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All is right in the world again.
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All is right in the world again.
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All is right in the world again.
Heh
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Agreed...
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why is dave lower case here but upper in bbf?
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why is dave lower case here but upper in bbf?
Upper, lower, does not matter, he goes both ways.
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super strange... cause i'm in Method here... and method over there...
msf... are you Msf over there?
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I do not have an id there that I know of. If I do it would likely be MnSoxFan
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looks like that's just the way I entered it when I registered here...it can be changed in your profile settings...
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Blue Jays beat the Orioles in 11 innings.
My favorite part of this was the lambasting Buck Showalter took on the postgame shows on both TBS and MLB Network for not pitching his Cy Young Award contending closer (Zach Britton) in this game.
I f'n hate Buck Showalter.
http://www.foxsports.com/mlb/story/buck-showalters-awful-decision-to-not-pitch-zach-britton-ended-the-orioles-season-100416
http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/hard-to-understand-why-buck-showalter-didnt-use-zach-britton-in-wild-card-loss/
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Nationals just announced that Adam LaRoche and son will throw out the first pitch in game 2 of the NLDS. I'm skipping that game.
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Nationals just announced that Adam LaRoche and son will throw out the first pitch in game 2 of the NLDS. I'm skipping that game.
Let's Go Dodgers!
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Conor Gillaspie: hero
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUYshVQbY1M
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To Sharpie
Tonight in the Tribe Red Sox game you saw a first hand example of how a manger can make a huge difference in a teams wins over a season. Terry Francona had the guts to go against "the book" which RV hates to violate, and stole this first game of the ALDS. He used his closer in the most important time, instead of waiting till the ninth inning.
Buck Showalter blew his game too.
Manager decisions have a 5-10 game difference in a seasons performance.
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Francona got his managing career started in our org, correct? Suppose no way we can entice him away from the Injuns
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Juan, but our closer SUCKS.
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I am finding myself rooting for the Cubs. It's time.
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Might have been the worst managing of an inning in a playoff game I have seen. NL sux
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You know since 2005 I have dreaded the day when the Cubs were poised to win the World Series. Right now my TV is overloaded with Go Cubs Go to the nauseating degree I almost hate to watch the local channels. Right now the Cubs are in position of dominating Chicago baseball for the next 100 years. That doesn't make me happy.
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all we need is a couple of bullpen arms and a few bats and we'll win next year.
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The real Cleveland Indians, who overcame injuries to win the AL Central, before knocking off Boston and Toronto in the playoffs, took a page from "Major League" this season.
Slugger Mike Napoli and second baseman Jason Kipnis constructed a shrine in an empty clubhouse stall between their lockers like one in the movie. In the film, character Pedro Cerrano practices Voodoo and prays to an idol named, "Jobu" to help him hit curveballs.
Like Cerrano, Napoli and Kipnis have their own "Jobu" and have left gifts, including small bottles of rum and cigars, to keep them out of hitting slumps.
http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/17849635/charlie-sheen-wild-thing-throw-ceremonial-first-pitch-world-series
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I read where Kipnis went to school with Bartman (the Cub curse) and thought he was actually a pretty good guy and did not deserve what went down. I have taken to liking Kipnis a bit, he is a baller.
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Bartman didn't deserve any of the **** he got. None of it. Three other guys also reached for that ball. Some douche picked it up and sold it to Grant DePorter for blood money, and no one knows his name.
Kipnis is a player.
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Blame that should have mostly focused on Moises for throwing an immature hissy fit.
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Moises "Pea on my hands" Alou.
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Hey Shoeless, Are you moving out here or what?
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Shoeless to the mountains, frigging stoner!!
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Looks like that drought on the north side will end tonight.
I love Kluber but beating a team 3 times in 10 days is tough. really tough.
Hendricks is a pretty darned good pitcher himself at this point.
I hope you chicago folks stay indoors and safe this evening... i presume it will be pandemonium in the streets.
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Et tu?
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i am still rooting for the indians. Pops' deserves this one.
I just dont know if kluber can beat em 3 times like this... he didnt throw 1 breaking ball the first start, added it in the 2nd and kept em off balance.
Does he have a 5th pitch he can introduce tonight?
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Hendricks might just wet himself, we will see. I think Kluber remains unbeatable. Just like Gibson, Lolich and Koufax did in the 60s in a game 7.
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I really hope you are right.
I think cubbies were a bit struck by the stage of it... now its passed.
Maddon using chapman last night hopefully hurts them a bit tonight.
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It's my goal. Not sure when but hope not too long
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I might just prefer they win so we can be done with the stupid hype. It's not nearly the event some think it is.
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I might actually watch tonight... probably on mute though.
Kluber will go down in the history books if he wins tonight... best WS performance by a single starting pitcher since (PICK ONE: Randy Johnson or Curt Schilling) in 2001.
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I was surprised he brought him in.
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Msf make your call to the dugout and talk to the bot.
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Rain delay?!?!?!?!!?
Do they know tomorrow is a work day?
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someone give this guy an award.
GIO @RaysFanGio
2016 World Series.
Cubs vs Indians
And then the world will end with the score tied in game seven in extra innings #apocalypse
1:23 PM - 4 Nov 2014
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Go Indians!
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Yep. Tribe to win it all and Nats take out the Coo
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Robertson may have single handedly propelled the Yanks to the next round going 3.1 innings after Severino could only last 0.1 innings in this WC game. Then when Robby tired, Kahnle bailed him out. I expect a HR from Frazier before this is over.
All we got for those three was a maybe prospect in Rutherford, and three other nothings. The Yanks may have gotten a ticket to the WS. We have always been fleeced in trades with the Yankees.
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Yep. I do not think we got enough back in that trade, but I was just glad to get rid of Frazier.
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Heresy!
https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=polo--000tit
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Heresy!
https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=polo--000tit
Polo? You are kidding, right?
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He's hardly a maybe prospect. Top 40 BA
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He is not.
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Alright, who else here enjoyed Chris Sale having his head handed to him by Houston this afternoon? ;D ;D ;D
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ALDS Game 2: The ineptitude and arrogance of Yankees manager Joe Girardi
https://sports.yahoo.com/alds-game-2-ineptitude-arrogance-yankees-manager-joe-girardi-065417891.html
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Joe Girardi a day after replay blunder costs Yankees in ALDS finally admits: ‘I screwed up’
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/girardi-day-replay-blunder-finally-admits-screwed-article-1.3547735
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On Monday I hope Love's Q shows up! ;)
Go Nats!!
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Chris Scissorhands' 2017 post-season: 0-2 with a 8.38 ERA
Love it!
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And Love's Q didn't show up. :(
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Q was down 1-0 due to that hatchet man in LF. If it had ended like that I know she would have posted. heh
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Nats are gagging.
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Hahaha!!! I always said some day the Chicago National League Ball Club's stupid basket was going to bite them. What a hoot. Catches beer cups AND turns outs or doubles into grand slams.
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Who's gagging?
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Tribe
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Brutal series for the Indians.
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They have lost 6 straight series clinching games
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I was pulling for them this year. Now hope it's Astros v Dodgers.
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I'm, I told you so!!! I also told you it would be fun watching Q do THAT for the Chicago National League Ball club
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I did not think Q would get absolutely rocked like he did last night. Heh.
Overall the cubs starting pitching wasn't the problem. The problem was Bryant, Rizzo, Baez, Schwarber did nothing all postseason. It was especially fun to see Rizzo's bat disappear after the whole "Respect Me" tantrum he pulled. Someone's ego is starting to get a bit big. He ended up going something like 1-20 with 10 k's or. Respect!
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Gotta dig that Altuve.
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Very happy to see the Cubs get knocked out. Didn't want to see another WS with the Cubs in it.
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It is soooo nice to enjoy the playoffs without the cubbies in it
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It is soooo nice to enjoy the playoffs without the cubbies in it
and to see Milw. do well too
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It is soooo nice to enjoy the playoffs without the cubbies in it
My friends are just stunned. They really expected that the cubs would just automatically be in the playoffs for the next 10 years. Even when the team was struggling there was still such a sense of superiority that even a bad cubs team is better than the rest of baseball.
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The M&M man is at the Brewers/LA game.
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Walker Buehler, who won for the Dodgers in their opening playoff game, was the 2nd pitcher picked in the first round of the 2015 draft out of Vanderbilt U.
Can you name the first?
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Walker Buehler, who won for the Dodgers in their opening playoff game, was the 2nd pitcher picked in the first round of the 2015 draft out of Vanderbilt U.
Can you name the first?
Makes me sick. How could you look at the two of them and take Fulmer first? I know he was successful in college. Seems I recall Buehler had a sore wing around that College World Series time or a bit earlier that year.
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Fulmer was seen as a guy that would advance quickly. Thats the hallmark of our drafting failures. Getting guys in the 1st round that we think will move quickly over the guy with the highest ceiling.
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Who cares? Water over the bridge
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yeah, we must accept the fact that the front office is run by clowns.
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I have it on pretty good information that Hahn's ringtone is Yakety Sax.
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Nice to see the Twinkies won as many playoff games as the White Sox did this season.
ZERO!
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Gotta be pretty frustrating for their fans, to have a team that dominated all season fall flat in the playoffs
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No way to score but the long ball is dangerous place to live in the post season.
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Imagine being a Twins fan:
Twins last 7 Playoff Appearances
2003: Lost ALDS 3-1 to NYY
2004: Lost ALDS 3-1 to NYY
2006: Lost ALDS 3-0 to OAK
2009: Lost ALDS 3-0 to NYY
2010: Lost ALDS 3-0 to NYY
2017: Lost WC Game to NYY
2019: Lost ALDS 3-0 to NYY
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They hate the Yankees up there, oh you betcha yeah.
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Gotta be pretty frustrating for their fans, to have a team that dominated all season fall flat in the playoffs
They just think they will pick right back up where they left off when next season starts. Their GM did not make a mistake in the offseason, doubt that happens again.
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I see Daniel Hudson picked up the win against the Dodgers last night.
Sox traded Hudson & Holmberg for ... Edwin freaking Jackson.
The Sox really do have the dumbest front office in baseball.
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And they were the only team in 30 that bothered to pursue James McCann. The truth is - it is an educated guessing game. Nobody knows. And that is half the fun of baseball - watching how it all turns out.
It’s not worth it to play the woulda, coulda, shoulda game. Drives people insane and makes them grumpy.
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not an argument against the proposition that the Sox front office is a joke.
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Agreed. Try enjoying life.
But, this is exactly the reason why all the major sports completely missed the boat on instant replay. People LIKED standing around the water cooler the day after and complaining about the umps/refs/officials. All it did is made preposterous rule changes (NFL) longer games, and remove human error on the field to human error in the booth. Plus people still complain, sometimes longer and louder, about the calls
The first base ump listens to the ball hit the back of the glove and watched the runners foot. Instant replay cannot capture that. Yet they overturn calls based on the ball going behind the fielder’s mitt. What a freaking mess.
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And managers have less ground for going ballistic after a bad call, going out and chewin' on an umpire and getting tossed. I always tho :)ught that was one of the more entertaining aspects of baseball.
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I didn’t have a horse in this race until the Nats acted like they had locked this game by their smug reaction in game 2. Go ‘Stroes.
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Booooooo!!
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I didn’t have a horse in this race until the Nats acted like they had locked this game by their smug reaction in game 2. Go ‘Stroes.
I actually thought the opposite. It felt to me like the Astros were smug from the beginning just kind of expecting to win. Then they took the 3-2 series lead and seemed like they (and most people) thought it was just a matter of which day they'd win it. Combined with how their FO handled the Taubman situation, I was glad to see the Nats win it.
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I'm happy for Davey Martinez and Daniel Hudson. Both of them were pure class when they played for the White Sox.
However I was hoping Houston would win as I dislike Adam Eaton and I didn't want him to get a ring.
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I didn’t have a horse in this race until the Nats acted like they had locked this game by their smug reaction in game 2. Go ‘Stroes.
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I actually thought the opposite. It felt to me like the Astros were smug from the beginning just kind of expecting to win. Then they took the 3-2 series lead and seemed like they (and most people) thought it was just a matter of which day they'd win it. Combined with how their FO handled the Taubman situation, I was glad to see the Nats win it.
Couldn't agree more with SoxRule!!!!!!
Both my teams the Sox and Nats won their world series at Minute Maid Park. Most of the country rooted for the Nats after the smug Astros tried to defend on several occasions their recently fired assistant GM screaming comments over and over to female reporters in their faces after clinching a spot in the World Series. "I AM F'ING GLAD WE SIGNED OSSUNA!!!"
The sweet part is Ossuna got shelled in game 7, and Daniel Hudson, who got criticized for being there for the birth of his child skipping a playoff game, finished the game.
Go Nats!! and Baby Shark doo du du du du dudu
And as for Eaton, he played well in Chitown I rooted for him and the Drake LaRouche FU was his only screw up
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"Most of the country rooted for the Nats after...."
Most of the people I talked to here in Denver didn't really care one way or the other, unless they had a tie to one of the teams in the past.
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I didn’t have a horse in this race until the Nats acted like they had locked this game by their smug reaction in game 2. Go ‘Stroes.
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I actually thought the opposite. It felt to me like the Astros were smug from the beginning just kind of expecting to win. Then they took the 3-2 series lead and seemed like they (and most people) thought it was just a matter of which day they'd win it. Combined with how their FO handled the Taubman situation, I was glad to see the Nats win it.
Couldn't agree more with SoxRule!!!!!!
Both my teams the Sox and Nats won their world series at Minute Maid Park. Most of the country rooted for the Nats after the smug Astros tried to defend on several occasions their recently fired assistant GM screaming comments over and over to female reporters in their faces after clinching a spot in the World Series. "I AM F'ING GLAD WE SIGNED OSSUNA!!!"
The sweet part is Ossuna got shelled in game 7, and Daniel Hudson, who got criticized for being there for the birth of his child skipping a playoff game, finished the game.
Go Nats!! and Baby Shark doo du du du du dudu
And as for Eaton, he played well in Chitown I rooted for him and the Drake LaRouche FU was his only screw up
So now 2 of 3 big ex Sox involved in trades have a ring.
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With the past-season over, this topic is now locked until October 2020.
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Since he left Sunday's game with an injury, I expect Gio Gonzalez won't be on the 1st round playoff roster. Who replaces him? A pitcher (Burdi, McRae, Stiever or Ruiz) or a position player (Collins, Mendick or Leury Garcia)?
https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/roster/40-man
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My priorities in order:
Collins, Mendick, Ruiz, Garcia
Collins to take Encarnacion's spot. DH = Abreu / Grandal, C = McCann, Collins = backup C.
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when did Mendick get sent down?
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when did Mendick get sent down?
9/17 when Ruiz was called up.
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Last week some baseball "experts" were claiming the A.L. Central was the best division in baseball. Now both their 1st and 2nd place teams were swept in the 1st round and only the White Sox remain in the hunt.
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All three top teams were playing around or above .600 but got there by feasting on the lowly Royales and Tigres as well as the NL Central. So in reality the AL Central was the best Central team in baseball.
Hard to call any team the "best team in baseball" when they are not playing two thirds of the other teams
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Game 2 of the Cubs’ wild-card series against the Marlins has been postponed to Friday
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/cubs/ct-chicago-cubs-miami-marlins-20201001-jd62rox4tbfsllqn2r4uetpko4-story.html
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That poor man.
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That poor man.
Heh
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They gave him a World Series ring after they won in '16.
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They gave him a World Series ring after they won in '16.
I had not heard that, interesting.
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They gave him a World Series ring after they won in '16.
I had not heard that, interesting.
https://wgntv.com/sports/cubs/steve-bartman-to-receive-2016-chicago-cubs-world-series-championship-ring/
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I forgot that. I hope he sold it.
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I forgot that. I hope he sold it.
I would wait 25 more years in which the Cubs go pennant-less and the value of their 1 ring would be tremendous
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"I hope he sold it."
Hahaha! I thought the same thing. That ring could have some special value since it has his name on it.
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https://twitter.com/Dodgers/status/1321296942874398720
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-otXoWpC5c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqtdIVZhlHU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9PHVKQtRr0
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If I hear another person say a great catch saved the game for the Astros! It was actually a case of poor defense losing the game for the Phils.