Author Topic: White Sox - Trades and Rumors (Read 105839 times)

Shoeless · « **Reply #325 on:** September 28, 2011, 01:28:59 pm »

Quote from: ISF on September 28, 2011, 10:07:42 am

Quote from: WshflThinking on September 28, 2011, 08:20:56 am
Buehrle isnt likely back with a raise in order.

I fully expect Buerhle to be re-signed.

I also expect Danks to be traded, and Sale to replace him in the rotation.

Buerhle/Floyd/Sale/Peavy/Humber is likely to be the rotation in April 2012.

My one source said Burly is gone to STL, Floyd will be traded.

Pierre will not be re-signed. De Aza and Lillibridge make him expendable.

I don't think AJ will be back either.

CF De Aza
SS Ramirez
1B Konerko
RF Quentin
DH Dunn
RF Viciedo
C Flowers
3B Morel
2B Beckham

Bench

Rios, Lillibridge, Castro, Kuhn

That is an awfully young lineup with potential to be very productive.

Shoeless · « **Reply #326 on:** September 28, 2011, 01:30:41 pm »

BTW, that's a damn good deal getting two pretty highly rated players for Ozzie. I mean, he was gone anyway

ISF · « **Reply #327 on:** September 28, 2011, 01:45:28 pm »

Only way White Sox let Buerhle leave is if St. Louis offers him crazy contract. So, it's possible, but I don't think Buerhle is gone.

Floyd being traded, IMO, is more possible. He's been inconsistent, you can get that out of Axelrod, Stewart or even Petricka.

The question is what value can we get for Floyd? I'm not sure anyone is going to give up much for him.

josephc · « **Reply #328 on:** September 28, 2011, 01:57:22 pm »

Quote from: ISF on September 28, 2011, 01:45:28 pm

Only way White Sox let Buerhle leave is if St. Louis offers him crazy contract. So, it's possible, but I don't think Buerhle is gone.

Floyd being traded, IMO, is more possible. He's been inconsistent, you can get that out of Axelrod, Stewart or even Petricka.

The question is what value can we get for Floyd? I'm not sure anyone is going to give up much for him.

"Gavin Floyd" is English for "Javier Vazquez," isn't it? Roughly?

Method · « **Reply #329 on:** September 28, 2011, 01:58:19 pm »

Pretty confident its a direct translation.

josephc · « **Reply #330 on:** September 28, 2011, 02:11:28 pm »

Well we got some good players for Vazquez.

BlackSox · « **Reply #331 on:** September 28, 2011, 03:47:04 pm »

Zach Stewart isn't a starter. At least not a good one. Hopefully he's not in the Sox' rotation next year.

aka Loveland · « **Reply #332 on:** September 28, 2011, 03:47:50 pm »

Everyone knows it was Austin Scarlett's corncob dress.

BlackSox · « **Reply #333 on:** September 28, 2011, 04:01:48 pm »

Meet yer new White Sox:

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/majors/trade-central/2011/2612403.html

Shoeless · « **Reply #334 on:** September 28, 2011, 04:57:04 pm »

Quote from: ISF on September 28, 2011, 01:45:28 pm

Only way White Sox let Buerhle leave is if St. Louis offers him crazy contract. So, it's possible, but I don't think Buerhle is gone.

Floyd being traded, IMO, is more possible. He's been inconsistent, you can get that out of Axelrod, Stewart or even Petricka.

The question is what value can we get for Floyd? I'm not sure anyone is going to give up much for him.

Burly is a FA, no? Sure sounds like he'd like to make a change.

Shoeless · « **Reply #335 on:** September 28, 2011, 04:57:47 pm »

Quote from: BlackSox on September 28, 2011, 03:47:04 pm

Zach Stewart isn't a starter. At least not a good one. Hopefully he's not in the Sox' rotation next year.

I actually like Stewart but can't ignore the numbers. He'll get a long look in ST

boatdrink · « **Reply #336 on:** September 28, 2011, 05:04:38 pm »

I don't want him back at all unless he gets a haircut.

I thought that look died along with Steve Lyons' career...

WshflThinking · « **Reply #337 on:** September 28, 2011, 05:41:08 pm »

Floyd or Danks is going to be traded, likely Danks because of impending FA, whereas Floyd has a longer and potentially cheaper contract. With Buehrle likely gone and either Danks or Floyd gone too The starting pitching is shaky at best. Humber stinks. I hope they part ways with him. Quentin is such a head case he needs to go too. The outfield is very weak defensively with Viciedo, DeAza and Quentin. Kuhn is a hitting machine. Supposedly his best defensive position is 2B.

4nek8 · « **Reply #338 on:** September 28, 2011, 06:09:53 pm »

Wshfl hath spoken....

josephc · « **Reply #339 on:** September 28, 2011, 10:06:46 pm »

Well, at least we've got a Jhan now.

Looks like we got jack squat in return though.

boatdrink · « **Reply #340 on:** September 28, 2011, 10:19:48 pm »

You mean 'jhack'...

aka Loveland · « **Reply #341 on:** September 28, 2011, 10:39:58 pm »

Cheer up JosephC, Ozzie is gone, best thing ever!

PeteWard · « **Reply #342 on:** September 29, 2011, 01:16:10 am »

God aweful managing Rios?

As I recall KW brought up de Aza to send Rios a message; in his first start de Aza wins the game witha HR. His reward? Ozie starts Rios the next game.

SoxRule · « **Reply #343 on:** September 29, 2011, 08:48:17 am »

So in other words, yes....god awful managing.

What people seem to be forgetting is that OZZIE QUIT. He was under contract for one more year and would have been here managing next season. But, even after admitting his failures for the season, he demanded a pay raise. He didn't get it so he walked on his team.

aka Loveland · « **Reply #344 on:** September 29, 2011, 09:03:51 am »

I agree he walked out on this team, but I am betting that the reason he walked had much to do with KW.

WshflThinking · « **Reply #345 on:** September 29, 2011, 09:31:40 am »

It did. No question plus he probably got more money out of Loria

SoxRule · « **Reply #346 on:** September 29, 2011, 09:36:58 am »

Quote

but I am betting that the reason he walked had much to do with KW.

Making it even more bush league. He can't be a damn professional and do his job because he no likey his boss? Hell, it's not like he took orders from KW anyway?

He bolted for more money. He said himself he didn't care about the rings.

WshflThinking · « **Reply #347 on:** September 29, 2011, 09:39:00 am »

I guess he is still supporting his adult kids who dont work

Method · « **Reply #348 on:** September 29, 2011, 09:42:37 am »

What loveland said.

KW brought up De Aza to send a message... but he didnt cut Rios... what was ozzie going to do? just sit his two most expensive players indefinitely and run a team with 23 players?

BlackSox · « **Reply #349 on:** September 29, 2011, 10:00:14 am »

I'm not all that sure that Ozzie "quit" in the traditional sense. It was clearly a case of "him or me" and JR chose Kenny. Then Ozzie quit. But JR certainly helped him do so.