Author Topic: White Sox - Trades and Rumors (Read 105623 times)

msf · « **Reply #1275 on:** February 26, 2014, 06:58:32 pm »

Good post Shoe. I agree with trading Beckham, he is not going to ever be what we hoped.

Shoeless · « **Reply #1276 on:** February 26, 2014, 09:44:40 pm »

nope. we have guys to step in and need a C.

Juan pizzarro · « **Reply #1277 on:** February 26, 2014, 10:40:33 pm »

If we don't have any intention of keeping Nieto the Rule 5 draft pick, when we had the third pick, why the hell did we pick him instead of some hard thrower for the bullpen?

msf · « **Reply #1278 on:** February 27, 2014, 06:54:47 am »

Cripes Juan, like a rule V pick is going to make a big diff. Nieto was worth taking a look at, if we like him we give up a minor leaguer for him and send him to the minors. He is not going to make the team.

ISF · « **Reply #1279 on:** February 27, 2014, 09:12:39 am »

If Nieto looks good, we don't have anyone that is going to keep him off the roster.
I would assume Phegley has options left.

Disagree on Beckham. He was showing flashes last year. He just has to stay healthy.
If anyone is going in a trade, it ought to be Alexei. Semien can play SS.

Shoeless · « **Reply #1280 on:** February 27, 2014, 10:28:14 am »

I would be OK with that though I think Lexi has a nice bounce back year.

AndyMacFAIL · « **Reply #1281 on:** February 27, 2014, 05:06:10 pm »

this didn't take long.....

Jake Elmore traded to the Oakland A's for cash considerations

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20140227&content_id=68400462&vkey=pr_cws&c_id=cws

ISF · « **Reply #1282 on:** March 06, 2014, 11:25:38 am »

It's still relatively early on in Spring Training, but the White Sox have already begun getting calls on outfielders Alejandro De Aza and Dayan Viciedo, according to Jon Heyman of CBS Sports (on Twitter). The two are battling for the everyday job in left field, as it 2013 trade acquisitions Adam Eaton and Avisail Garcia are likely to man center field and right field, respectively.

De Aza is the more established player of the two but also comes with less team control. Set to turn 30 in early April, De Aza has batted .279/.343/.420 in 357 games with the White Sox since being claimed off waivers from the Marlins in 2009. The lefty swinger belted a career-high 17 homers last season and has stolen 46 bases over the past two seasons. Ultimate Zone Rating pegs him as an average defender in the outfield, though Defensive Runs Saved feels he's somewhat below average. He has extensive experience in center field and also played 426 innings in left field for the Sox last season. De Aza is under team control for two more seasons and will earn $4.25MM in 2014.

Viciedo is the younger and more powerful of the two, but comes with question marks about his defense and on-base skills. Viciedo, who turns 25 on Monday, mashed 25 homers in his first full season with the Sox in 2012, posting a .255/.300/.444 triple-slash line. However, he wasn't able to match that power level in 2013, as he hit just 14 homers with a .265/.304/.426 slash line. UZR/150 pegs him at -5.5 over his career in left field, while DRS has him at -3. Both metrics agree that his glove worsened in 2013. As a Super Two player, he'll earn $2.8MM in 2014 and is controllable through the 2017 season.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/03/white-sox-getting-calls-on-de-aza-viciedo.html

msf · « **Reply #1283 on:** March 06, 2014, 02:16:03 pm »

I would prefer De Aza.

Juan pizzarro · « **Reply #1284 on:** March 06, 2014, 09:08:28 pm »

Me too, and I'd like to see a Danks/Viciedo platoon in left, but I read where Robin does not much like platoons, he's sort of the anti-Joe Maddon.

Method · « **Reply #1285 on:** March 07, 2014, 08:40:44 am »

I prefer we keep de aza and trade dayan... dayan is horrible.

ISF · « **Reply #1286 on:** March 07, 2014, 08:55:46 am »

Agree with Method. De Aza gives us more flexibility defensively, he's a better baserunner and gets on base more.

Method · « **Reply #1287 on:** March 07, 2014, 10:43:04 am »

Defensive outfield of De Aza/Eaton/Garcia sounds half decent.

josephc · « **Reply #1288 on:** March 07, 2014, 04:39:34 pm »

I think we might as well get SOME value out of Viciedo while we can.

aka Loveland · « **Reply #1289 on:** March 08, 2014, 10:39:00 am »

I am also in the "Dump Dayan" camp.

Defense, defense, defense.

ISF · « **Reply #1290 on:** March 10, 2014, 12:27:19 pm »

I didn't even realize he was back...but he's gone again:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-zach-stewart-trade-atlanta-20140310,0,488598.story

AndyMacFAIL · « **Reply #1291 on:** March 10, 2014, 02:47:31 pm »

Quote from: ISF on March 10, 2014, 12:27:19 pm

I didn't even realize he was back...but he's gone again:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-zach-stewart-trade-atlanta-20140310,0,488598.story

The Braves were looking for a batting practice pitcher and decided to trade for Stewart to fill the position.

msf · « **Reply #1292 on:** March 10, 2014, 08:14:25 pm »

Quote from: ISF on March 10, 2014, 12:27:19 pm

I didn't even realize he was back...but he's gone again:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-zach-stewart-trade-atlanta-20140310,0,488598.story

He started all year at Charlotte, did not have a good year.

ISF · « **Reply #1293 on:** March 14, 2014, 12:48:49 pm »

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/03/al-east-notes-cervelli-pineda-drew-orioles.html

a deal centered around Francisco Cervelli and Gordon Beckham "is not impossible,"

ISF · « **Reply #1294 on:** March 26, 2014, 01:18:40 pm »

WHITE SOX CLAIM PITCHER JAVY GUERRA OFF WAIVERS FROM DODGERS
March 26, 2014 at 1:15pm

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Wednesday, March 26, 2014

GLENDALE, Ariz. – The Chicago White Sox have claimed right-handed relief pitcher Javy Guerra off waivers from the Los Angeles Dodgers.

Guerra, 28, spent most of the 2013 season with Class AAA Albuquerque, going 0-4 with a 3.66 ERA (16 ER/39.1 IP), 12 saves and 36 strikeouts in 27 games (four starts). He also made nine appearances with the Dodgers, recording a 6.75 ERA (8 ER/10.2 IP) with 12 strikeouts.

Guerra, 6-foot-1 and 190 pounds, has gone 4-5 with a 2.90 ERA (33 ER/102.1 IP), 87 strikeouts and 29 saves over parts of three major-league seasons with the Dodgers (2011-13). His best season came as a rookie in 2011 when he posted a 2.31 ERA (12 ER/46.2 IP), with a team-high 21 saves and 38 strikeouts in 47 appearances. Guerra followed with a 2.60 ERA (13 ER/45.0 IP) and eight saves in 2012.

A native of Denton, Texas, Guerra also has gone 27-30 with a 4.26 ERA (226 ER/477.1 IP) and 464 strikeouts in 219 games (65 starts) over 10 seasons in the minor leagues, all with the Dodgers. He originally was selected by the Dodgers in the fourth round of the 2004 draft.

The White Sox 40-man roster is at 40

https://www.facebook.com/notes/chicago-white-sox/white-sox-claim-pitcher-javy-guerra-off-waivers-from-dodgers/10152711690098047

msf · « **Reply #1295 on:** March 26, 2014, 02:15:45 pm »

Thanks ISF, I had not heard that.

ISF · « **Reply #1296 on:** March 27, 2014, 12:52:47 pm »

•The Diamondbacks have acquired lefty Spencer Arroyo from the White Sox for cash, according to the MLB transactions page. The 25-year-old spent most of his time as a starter in Double-A last year, putting up a 3.50 ERA in 149 1/3 innings while posting 5.8 K/9 against 2.7 BB/9.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2014/03/minor-moves-pirates-acquire-keon-broxton.html

Juan pizzarro · « **Reply #1297 on:** April 13, 2014, 08:14:24 pm »

Nationals are hurting with 3B Zimmerman out for 2 months. Rendon is moving the #B now, and they have a hole at 2B. Espinosa k's hits like Dunn without the HR's.

Beckham for a reliever?

AndyMacFAIL · « **Reply #1298 on:** April 13, 2014, 09:10:44 pm »

Quote from: Juan pizzarro on April 13, 2014, 08:14:24 pm

Nationals are hurting with 3B Zimmerman out for 2 months. Rendon is moving the #B now, and they have a hole at 2B. Espinosa k's hits like Dunn without the HR's.

Beckham for a reliever?

Have the White Sox made a trade with the Nationals since July of 2010?

The reason I ask is that, from what I heard, Kenny & Hahn were really upset with Mike Rizzo. The White Sox went through with acquiring Jackson from Arizona for Daniel Hudson & David Holmberg only because they expected to immediately send him to Washington for Adam Dunn. After the CWS acquired Jackson, Rizzo reneged on the trade. I don't know if he changed his mind completely or asked for a better deal since the CWS had already made the trade with Arizona. Obviously, the White Sox did end up with Dunn later in the off-season but as a free-agent and that cost the White Sox their 2011 1st round pick.

AFAIK, Kenny & Hahn vowed not to deal with Rizzo again unless any future deal with Rizzo was lopsided to the White Sox benefit. So, if bad feelings still linger, I suspect Rizzo would have to offer a killer deal to get Beckham or anyone else from the White Sox.

Juan pizzarro · « **Reply #1299 on:** April 13, 2014, 09:35:51 pm »

You know that Rizzo was with the White Sox and at least partially responsible for the Frank Thomas signing. Did the bad blood start then when Rizzo left?