Author Topic: White Sox - Trades and Rumors (Read 105665 times)

Method · « **Reply #550 on:** July 26, 2012, 12:41:45 pm »

I think you guys are WAY overvaluing what thorny/floyd/reed are worth to other teams.

I didnt realize he wasnt signed thru next year... so that will lower his price.

But if Braves are offering a blue chipper like delgado + for grenke... Brewers are going to want a lot more then our cast off veterans...

BlackSox · « **Reply #551 on:** July 26, 2012, 12:59:50 pm »

t****

Heh. I know what that was supposed to be.

JhonJeter0112358 · « **Reply #552 on:** July 27, 2012, 07:44:41 pm »

aaaannd you don't have to worry about Greinke anymore. Was fairly shocked by how little the Haloes had to give up. WTF?

Method · « **Reply #553 on:** July 27, 2012, 08:35:20 pm »

Not sure who the AA pitchers were.. but segura is a top 50 prospect... and a top 10 MI prospect at this time.

Mitchell doesnt even crack the top 100 at this time.

I can see them wanting a INF back after losing Lawrie

Method · « **Reply #554 on:** July 27, 2012, 08:43:33 pm »

With Grienke off the market... i'd take a shot at Garza... hurt or not. hes even under contract for next year.

josephc · « **Reply #555 on:** July 27, 2012, 08:49:41 pm »

I'm telling you - Mark Buehrle.

Method · « **Reply #556 on:** July 27, 2012, 08:52:22 pm »

John Hellweg and Ariel Pena are the AA pitchers...

I've read good things about hellweg... he'd probably be a top 3 in our system...

here is what law had to say about hellweg "At 6'9", the imposing Hellweg and his devastating high 90's fastball could have the highest ceiling of any player in the organization not named Mike Trout."

Method · « **Reply #557 on:** July 27, 2012, 08:54:47 pm »

JC... i would love that... but you cant trade a player in the first year after he signs a multi year FA contract correct?

aka Loveland · « **Reply #558 on:** July 27, 2012, 09:47:18 pm »

Why not?

JhonJeter0112358 · « **Reply #559 on:** July 27, 2012, 10:31:41 pm »

I'm more concerned with SoxRule being pi ssed off at me. I posted a straightforward baseball "Trades and Rumors" thing here in the hopes that she wouldn't think of me as being total bait-ass. I actually do talk about baseball on a non-retarted level. . . sometimes.

josephc · « **Reply #560 on:** July 27, 2012, 11:02:44 pm »

Quote from: Method on July 27, 2012, 08:54:47 pm

JC... i would love that... but you cant trade a player in the first year after he signs a multi year FA contract correct?

I thought you could after June 1 or something like that.

Andy / MSF would probably know....

Method · « **Reply #561 on:** July 27, 2012, 11:16:39 pm »

i was under the impression its part of the collective bargaining agreement... perhaps the rule states june 1st... before trades... but i thought it was no trading a FA in the first year.

SoxRule · « **Reply #562 on:** July 28, 2012, 07:37:28 am »

Can you imagine the electric atmosphere at the Cell for Buehrle's first game back as a White Sox? That would be amazing.

However, it's not happening. Have you seen Buerhle's contract? It is so heavily backloaded that no one will trade for him unless the Marlins pick up a huge amount of his salary. And if the Marlins are trying to do a salary dump of players this year, that kind of defeats the purpose for them.

After the Marlins spent all that money, everyone saw it coming a mile away that if they didn't win the World Series in a year or two they would dismantle the team (like they've done the previous times they tried to buy a World Series). Still surprised though that they're giving up 4 months into their new stadium's inaugural season.

JhonJeter0112358 · « **Reply #563 on:** July 28, 2012, 09:05:31 am »

Actually, in the past, I recall the Marlins jettisoning high-priced players even if they do make it to the WS, especially in '97.

SoxRule · « **Reply #564 on:** July 28, 2012, 09:54:13 am »

Right, because they wanted to dump salary after winning the world series instead of trying to win more. But did they pick up any of the tab on those high priced players? Because Reinsdorf is not taking on Buehrle's salary unless the Marlins cover a big part of it.

ISF · « **Reply #565 on:** July 28, 2012, 12:27:36 pm »

I'd kick the tires on Jake Arrieta from Baltimore. He's struggled this year, but he sort of reminds me of Jack McDowell that way.
All the tools are there, type of pitcher I could see Coop straightening out quickly.

JhonJeter0112358 · « **Reply #566 on:** July 28, 2012, 02:11:05 pm »

Because Reinsdorf is not taking on Buehrle's salary unless the Marlins cover a big part of it.

Yep, the Marlins gain nothing by moving Buehrle if they can't move the salary as well. I don't want to see the Sox take on that salary. Marlins went on a spending **** and now it's biting them in the butt.

josephc · « **Reply #567 on:** July 28, 2012, 03:17:18 pm »

Quote from: JhonJeter0112358 on July 28, 2012, 02:11:05 pm

Because Reinsdorf is not taking on Buehrle's salary unless the Marlins cover a big part of it.

Yep, the Marlins gain nothing by moving Buehrle if they can't move the salary as well. I don't want to see the Sox take on that salary. Marlins went on a spending **** and now it's biting them in the butt.

spree sp ree

that's censored?

josephc · « **Reply #568 on:** July 28, 2012, 03:17:44 pm »

hmm. Now I'm curious as to what Jheter wrote.

JhonJeter0112358 · « **Reply #569 on:** July 28, 2012, 03:37:01 pm »

o rgy

Let's try orgiastic just for snicks.

Hah, that gets through!

JhonJeter0112358 · « **Reply #570 on:** July 28, 2012, 03:41:13 pm »

twat is evidenly ok

This censor has some weird bias I can't quite figure out.

AndyMacFAIL · « **Reply #571 on:** July 28, 2012, 03:56:54 pm »

Quote from: joeconners on July 27, 2012, 11:02:44 pm

Quote from: Method on July 27, 2012, 08:54:47 pm
JC... i would love that... but you cant trade a player in the first year after he signs a multi year FA contract correct?

I thought you could after June 1 or something like that.

Andy / MSF would probably know....

June 15 is the day a MLB free agent signee can be traded without his permission. The player can waive that right in writing in order to be traded sooner.

Method is confusing the wait time on trading players drafted in the 'First Year Player Entry Draft' (Rule 4 Draft). Players taken then are protected from trade until one full year has elapsed from their signing their initial contract. Example: The White Sox can't trade Courtney Hawkins until late June 2013.

ISF · « **Reply #572 on:** July 28, 2012, 10:11:56 pm »

Francisco Liriano to the White Sox for Eduardo Escobar and a minor league player.

ISF · « **Reply #573 on:** July 28, 2012, 10:15:06 pm »

LHP Pedro Hernandez is the minor leaguer.

I'll buy. I hate to lose Escobar, but Liriano gives us an exceptional #3/#4 pitcher.

Method · « **Reply #574 on:** July 28, 2012, 10:15:14 pm »

Minor league player is Pedro Hernandez.

Liriano has sucked all year imho... other then the no no...

cooop... time to work your magic.