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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2576 on: December 07, 2017, 12:13:39 pm »
Seems like a good Coop special to me. Try converting him to the bullpen. We need arms there, especially a LH.

https://www.mlbtraderumor...ens-outright-waivers.html

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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2577 on: December 10, 2017, 12:06:46 pm »

White Sox assets Jose Abreu and Avisail Garcia could be up for bid at winter meetings


http://www.chicagotribune...tings-20171209-story.html


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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2578 on: December 13, 2017, 12:32:30 pm »
6:27pm: The Yankees and White Sox are also interested in Machado, ESPNís Buster Olney reports (Twitter link).  As mentioned below, Peter Angelos doesnít want to deal Machado to New York, while the Sox are an interesting suitor that could be looking at Machado as the centerpiece of a return to contention.

https://www.mlbtraderumor...-rumor-manny-machado.html

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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2579 on: December 13, 2017, 01:33:58 pm »
Just dont see it unless they have deal in place for new contract

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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2580 on: December 13, 2017, 02:01:11 pm »
Just dont see it unless they have deal in place for new contract

Agree, especially when the White Sox are still in re-build mode.  It would be a foolish trade for a one year rental unless you can steal him in a trade or have him agree to a contract extension before the trade.

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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2581 on: December 14, 2017, 09:02:33 am »
https://www.mlbtraderumor...acquire-carlos-tocci.html

Sox draft Tocci then trade him for a bag of coin...

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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2583 on: December 14, 2017, 11:57:51 am »
Nick Burdi picked just before Sox pick - Smart move, he had TJ surgery so will be on DL most of the year followed by 30 day rehab assignment - only needs to be called up at end of year.

Sox could have picked Nestor Cortez.

Last yr sox picked a bum - this yr they bailed. What was point in getting down to 36 on the roster?

Sox should sign Putnam & Petricka to minor league deals, bet I fear they're to stupid to act on a no lose situation.

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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2584 on: December 14, 2017, 07:00:47 pm »
Nick Burdi picked just before Sox pick - Smart move, he had TJ surgery so will be on DL most of the year followed by 30 day rehab assignment - only needs to be called up at end of year.

Sox could have picked Nestor Cortez.

Last yr sox picked a bum - this yr they bailed. What was point in getting down to 36 on the roster?

Sox should sign Putnam & Petricka to minor league deals, bet I fear they're to stupid to act on a no lose situation.

I would sign Putnam, not the other bum. Cannot stand him.

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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2586 on: December 15, 2017, 10:09:23 am »
The rule 5 pickup that was sold to the Rangers was for cash. Bummer.

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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2587 on: December 15, 2017, 12:00:15 pm »
There's a lot to the Machado rumors that just do not make sense.    I'm not buying any of it.

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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2588 on: December 15, 2017, 12:30:05 pm »
There's no way any of our main prospects are on the table for 1 year of Machado. I'm not buying it either.

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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2589 on: December 15, 2017, 01:48:39 pm »
I don't think we'd be buying 1 year. There's nothing stopping us from offering a boatload of cash over 5-6 years. Who else are we going to be paying? Rodon? Abreu?

CF   Polo
2B   Moncada
3B   Machado
1B   Abreu
LF   Jimenez
DH  Davidson
RF   Garcia
C    Castillo
SS  Anderson


Rough lineup, assuming we don't trade Abreu or Garcia (I think we'll move Avi while value is up).

We have no big player contracts. Machado fits our window. I'd hate to give up Giolito or Kopech, but you don't get a Machado for pennies on the dollar. That's why we accumulated volume.


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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2590 on: December 15, 2017, 04:58:51 pm »
I don't think we'd be buying 1 year. There's nothing stopping us from offering a boatload of cash over 5-6 years. Who else are we going to be paying? Rodon? Abreu?

CF   Polo
2B   Moncada
3B   Machado
1B   Abreu
LF   Jimenez
DH  Davidson
RF   Garcia
C    Castillo
SS  Anderson


Rough lineup, assuming we don't trade Abreu or Garcia (I think we'll move Avi while value is up).

We have no big player contracts. Machado fits our window. I'd hate to give up Giolito or Kopech, but you don't get a Machado for pennies on the dollar. That's why we accumulated volume.

Yeah, but the Orioles aren't allowing teams to try to negotiate an extension with Machado apparently.
If we're going to commit to someone like Machado, why not just give up a 2019 draft pick to sign him later? Or do you think we'll get a "hometown" discount?

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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2591 on: December 15, 2017, 11:07:13 pm »
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the Orioles aren't allowing teams to try to negotiate an extension with Machado apparently.

One of the many things that makes zero sense.   The O's would get a bigger "haul" if their trade partner knew they'd have Machado for more than a year.  Given the option, you want the bigger "haul".  If a schmoe like me knows this, certainly the brain trust of a major league team knows this.

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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2592 on: December 15, 2017, 11:29:58 pm »
Dont sell yourself short, Blackie. Youíte a smart schmoe

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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2594 on: December 16, 2017, 08:45:43 am »
Wouldn't we receive a comp pick after the first round if he signed elsewhere?

I'm of the belief we will be strong in 2nd half next season. KC and Tigers in toilet. Show Machado you're a year away (and the money). If he walks, get the pick and sign someone else.

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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2595 on: December 16, 2017, 11:10:36 am »
Yep

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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2596 on: December 16, 2017, 12:43:01 pm »
Wouldn't we receive a comp pick after the first round if he signed elsewhere?

I'm of the belief we will be strong in 2nd half next season. KC and Tigers in toilet. Show Machado you're a year away (and the money). If he walks, get the pick and sign someone else.


Yes and no.  Compensation rules changed in the latest CBA reducing the value of a compensation pick.  Only teams that receive revenue sharing will now get a sandwich pick between rounds 1 and 2 for their loss of a free agent who rejected the qualify offer.

The White Sox do not receive revenue sharing so no round 1A pick for them.  Best they'd receive is a pick which would come after Competitive Balance Round B. Competitive Balance Round B comes after Round 2.  Last June the Competitive Balance Round B ended with overall pick #75. 

So as an example, if Jake Arrieta signs with another team this off-season, the Cubs compensation in the June 2018 draft, would be approximately the 80th overall pick. If Arrieta was a free agent last off-season, losing Arrieta would have given them pick #31 in the June 2017 draft.


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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2597 on: December 17, 2017, 06:14:01 am »
Hmmmm.... You all are just as baffled by the  Machado talk as me. 

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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2598 on: December 17, 2017, 03:43:39 pm »
Even if the Orioles granted a 72-hr window to work out an extension, Machado has absolutely no reason not test free agency. He's going to get a MEGA contract from someone and it makes no sense for him not to see what's out there and play other teams against each other to keep raising the bidding. The Sox may offer a very, very big amount but there's no amount the Dodgers or Yankees couldn't top if they decide they really want him. And for as good as Machado is, there does get to be a point where the money he'll command is just not practical. Forget about Bryce Harper, too. That guy's a dbag.

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Re: White Sox - Trades and Rumors
« Reply #2599 on: December 17, 2017, 04:22:24 pm »
Borass is going to make a lot of $$$$ next year.

 

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