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Re: Trades and Rumors
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2011, 08:57:55 pm »
With the trading deadline approaching Edwin Jackson and Teabag ought to be on the block. I wouldnt cry if Quentin is traded either.

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Re: Trades and Rumors
« Reply #26 on: July 06, 2011, 09:27:41 pm »
I wouldnt cry if Quentin is traded either.

Color me shocked.

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Re: Trades and Rumors
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2011, 10:33:15 pm »
 :P

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Re: Trades and Rumors
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2011, 10:36:48 pm »
Well Fury says we have to find a spot for his man-crush, Viciedo  ;D ;D


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Re: Trades and Rumors
« Reply #30 on: July 07, 2011, 02:07:30 pm »
Beachy has the look of a front line pitcher.   Quentin has the look of a .270/.850 OPS guy who gets hurt a lot.  Dayan for Q could well be an upgrade.


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« Reply #32 on: July 07, 2011, 02:19:59 pm »
I'll go one step further and suggest we could make two trades and get rid of two outfielders.

Quentin for Beachy, if available, would give us a 7th SP.

I would think we could turn around and offer the Mets Jackson/Pierre for  Carlos Beltran.
The money is similar, if not exact. Both Pierre and Jackson come off the books this year, which would have to be enticing.
Jackson is a serviceable #4 with the potential to be a #1 when he's on.
At worst, those two would each be Type B FAs. With a strong second half, either could be a Type A.

In essence, you would replace Jackson/Quentin/Pierre with Beachy/Beltran/Viciedo and add a year of salary for Beltran.
It would be the type of win now and rebuilding/have my cake and eat it too move KW loves.







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Re: Trades and Rumors
« Reply #33 on: July 07, 2011, 02:26:26 pm »
I'll go one step further and suggest we could make two trades and get rid of two outfielders.

Quentin for Beachy, if available, would give us a 7th SP.

I would think we could turn around and offer the Mets Jackson/Pierre for  Carlos Beltran.
The money is similar, if not exact. Both Pierre and Jackson come off the books this year, which would have to be enticing.
Jackson is a serviceable #4 with the potential to be a #1 when he's on.
At worst, those two would each be Type B FAs. With a strong second half, either could be a Type A.

In essence, you would replace Jackson/Quentin/Pierre with Beachy/Beltran/Viciedo and add a year of salary for Beltran.
It would be the type of win now and rebuilding/have my cake and eat it too move KW loves.

I like it.

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Re: Trades and Rumors
« Reply #34 on: July 07, 2011, 07:27:42 pm »
Me thinks Fury would like this lineup better:

Alex Rios - If only.  Well, maybe not.  Even if the Sox found a way to get rid of the prohibitively expensive Rios, it would leave them with an outfield of Viciedo, Quentin, and aging Pierre in center.  In other words, they'd need to score 10 runs a game.


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Re: Trades and Rumors
« Reply #35 on: July 07, 2011, 08:22:14 pm »
Me thinks Fury would like this lineup better:

Alex Rios - If only.  Well, maybe not.  Even if the Sox found a way to get rid of the prohibitively expensive Rios, it would leave them with an outfield of Viciedo, Quentin, and aging Pierre in center.  In other words, they'd need to score 10 runs a game.

They might.

But I already said I like the idea of cutting loose both Quentin and Pierre (agreeing with the ISF proposal).  And Rios is worthless, get rid of him too.

Of course, you'd like an outfield that doesn't generate any RBIs at all.   In your perfect world, the Sox would win every game 1-0 via a balk, steal of second, hit batter, and passed ball.

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« Reply #36 on: July 07, 2011, 10:47:30 pm »
Me thinks Fury would like this lineup better:

Alex Rios - If only.  Well, maybe not.  Even if the Sox found a way to get rid of the prohibitively expensive Rios, it would leave them with an outfield of Viciedo, Quentin, and aging Pierre in center.  In other words, they'd need to score 10 runs a game.

They might.

But I already said I like the idea of cutting loose both Quentin and Pierre (agreeing with the ISF proposal).  And Rios is worthless, get rid of him too.

Of course, you'd like an outfield that doesn't generate any RBIs at all.   In your perfect world, the Sox would win every game 1-0 via a balk, steal of second, hit batter, and passed ball.

My guess is you'd prefer the solo HR.  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Trades and Rumors
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2011, 06:09:17 am »
Me thinks Fury would like this lineup better:

Alex Rios - If only.  Well, maybe not.  Even if the Sox found a way to get rid of the prohibitively expensive Rios, it would leave them with an outfield of Viciedo, Quentin, and aging Pierre in center.  In other words, they'd need to score 10 runs a game.

They might.

But I already said I like the idea of cutting loose both Quentin and Pierre (agreeing with the ISF proposal).  And Rios is worthless, get rid of him too.

Of course, you'd like an outfield that doesn't generate any RBIs at all.   In your perfect world, the Sox would win every game 1-0 via a balk, steal of second, hit batter, and passed ball.

My guess is you'd prefer the solo HR.  ;D ;D ;D

Nope, the three-run shot, with a couple of RBI doubles and maybe a triple thrown in too.  I like games that end 6-1 or maybe 10-4.

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« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2011, 07:10:15 am »
Me thinks Fury would like this lineup better:

Alex Rios - If only.  Well, maybe not.  Even if the Sox found a way to get rid of the prohibitively expensive Rios, it would leave them with an outfield of Viciedo, Quentin, and aging Pierre in center.  In other words, they'd need to score 10 runs a game.

They might.

But I already said I like the idea of cutting loose both Quentin and Pierre (agreeing with the ISF proposal).  And Rios is worthless, get rid of him too.

Of course, you'd like an outfield that doesn't generate any RBIs at all.   In your perfect world, the Sox would win every game 1-0 via a balk, steal of second, hit batter, and passed ball.

My guess is you'd prefer the solo HR.  ;D ;D ;D

Nope, the three-run shot, with a couple of RBI doubles and maybe a triple thrown in too.  I like games that end 6-1 or maybe 10-4.

Well right now nobody is hitting so like were Viciedo brought up all his hits would be solos, there would be nobody to drive in. And those scores would be the opposition scoring all the runs. See, the pitching staff has to give up at least 5 runs/game.

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Re: Trades and Rumors
« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2011, 08:21:45 am »
Me thinks Fury would like this lineup better:

Alex Rios - If only.  Well, maybe not.  Even if the Sox found a way to get rid of the prohibitively expensive Rios, it would leave them with an outfield of Viciedo, Quentin, and aging Pierre in center.  In other words, they'd need to score 10 runs a game.

They might.

But I already said I like the idea of cutting loose both Quentin and Pierre (agreeing with the ISF proposal).  And Rios is worthless, get rid of him too.

Of course, you'd like an outfield that doesn't generate any RBIs at all.   In your perfect world, the Sox would win every game 1-0 via a balk, steal of second, hit batter, and passed ball.

My guess is you'd prefer the solo HR.  ;D ;D ;D

Nope, the three-run shot, with a couple of RBI doubles and maybe a triple thrown in too.  I like games that end 6-1 or maybe 10-4.

Well right now nobody is hitting so like were Viciedo brought up all his hits would be solos, there would be nobody to drive in. And those scores would be the opposition scoring all the runs. See, the pitching staff has to give up at least 5 runs/game.

The Sox pitching has been decent, overall.  So, expanding on your theory that no one else will get on base and that Viciedo will only hit solo shots, I'd say we have a decent chance of winning quite a few games 3-1 or 3-2, with Viciedo going 3 for 4 in each game.  We might win some extra-inning games 4-3 too.   ;)

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Re: Trades and Rumors
« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2011, 08:43:13 am »
Viciedo going 3-4 in each game?

What the f kinda **** do you guys get to smoke up in MI? send some down to florida.

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Re: Trades and Rumors
« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2011, 08:48:22 am »
Viciedo going 3-4 in each game?

What the f kinda **** do you guys get to smoke up in MI? send some down to florida.

I'm playing with Wshfl, throwing his kind of improbable scenarios back at him.

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« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2011, 10:29:00 am »
Me thinks Fury would like this lineup better:

Alex Rios - If only.  Well, maybe not.  Even if the Sox found a way to get rid of the prohibitively expensive Rios, it would leave them with an outfield of Viciedo, Quentin, and aging Pierre in center.  In other words, they'd need to score 10 runs a game.

They might.

But I already said I like the idea of cutting loose both Quentin and Pierre (agreeing with the ISF proposal).  And Rios is worthless, get rid of him too.

Of course, you'd like an outfield that doesn't generate any RBIs at all.   In your perfect world, the Sox would win every game 1-0 via a balk, steal of second, hit batter, and passed ball.

My guess is you'd prefer the solo HR.  ;D ;D ;D

Nope, the three-run shot, with a couple of RBI doubles and maybe a triple thrown in too.  I like games that end 6-1 or maybe 10-4.

Well right now nobody is hitting so like were Viciedo brought up all his hits would be solos, there would be nobody to drive in. And those scores would be the opposition scoring all the runs. See, the pitching staff has to give up at least 5 runs/game.

The Sox pitching has been decent, overall.  So, expanding on your theory that no one else will get on base and that Viciedo will only hit solo shots, I'd say we have a decent chance of winning quite a few games 3-1 or 3-2, with Viciedo going 3 for 4 in each game.  We might win some extra-inning games 4-3 too.   ;)

3-4? Sheesh! I hope you are aware that his turn at bat only comes after 8 other players bat. If he follows Dunn or some of the other duds nobody will be on base.

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Re: Trades and Rumors
« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2011, 10:30:51 am »
Viciedo going 3-4 in each game?

What the f kinda **** do you guys get to smoke up in MI? send some down to florida.

I'm playing with Wshfl, throwing his kind of improbable scenarios back at him.

I think Method is interested in your stash.

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Re: Trades and Rumors
« Reply #44 on: July 08, 2011, 10:33:00 am »
Viciedo going 3-4 in each game?

What the f kinda **** do you guys get to smoke up in MI? send some down to florida.

I'm playing with Wshfl, throwing his kind of improbable scenarios back at him.

I think Method is interested in your stash.

I don't smoke... anything.  I'm pretty old fashioned.  I drink.

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Re: Trades and Rumors
« Reply #45 on: July 08, 2011, 06:18:44 pm »
The Astros have claimed right-hander Lucas Harrell from the White Sox, according to Zachary Levine of the Houston Chronicle (Twitter link). The move fills Houston's 40-man roster and creates a spot on Chicago's roster, which now stands at 37.

The White Sox selected Harrell in the fourth round of the 2004 draft and the 26-year-old has had brief stints in the majors in each of the past two seasons. In 29 big league innings, he has a 5.28 ERA with 6.2 K/9 and 5.6 BB/9 and over the course of seven minor league seasons, Harrell has a 3.79 ERA with 6.0 K/9 and 4.3 BB/9.

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Re: Trades and Rumors
« Reply #46 on: July 08, 2011, 08:57:29 pm »
Gavin Floyd for a solid hitting RFer.

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Re: Trades and Rumors
« Reply #47 on: July 08, 2011, 09:00:01 pm »
Gavin Floyd for a solid hitting RFer.

C'mon, you don't like players who can hit.

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« Reply #48 on: July 08, 2011, 09:01:23 pm »
Gavin Floyd for a solid hitting RFer.

C'mon, you don't like players who can hit.

I like the ones who can hit and field well

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« Reply #49 on: July 08, 2011, 09:03:03 pm »
I hope we clean house at the trading deadline

 

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