Author Topic: The World Today (Read 256076 times)

WshflThinking · « **Reply #25 on:** April 20, 2011, 05:23:55 am »

(for the righties... this post in no way shape or form condones the toilet paper proposal put forth by our current president)

and stained heavily brown. TYVM

Method · « **Reply #26 on:** April 20, 2011, 02:10:52 pm »

Boat... here's another 50000 reasons to not drill in the gulf any more. who pays to maintain the oil wells after we get all the usable oil out?

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2011/apr/20/201043/ap-impact-3200-gulf-wells-unplugged-unprotected/news-metro/

WshflThinking · « **Reply #27 on:** April 20, 2011, 08:03:20 pm »

So lets not drill for oil anymore. Lets buy our oil from the Saudis and get ****.

Method · « **Reply #28 on:** April 20, 2011, 09:48:10 pm »

Yes wishful... because those are our only two options... Drilling ourselves... or importing... there are NO other sources of energy... none.. we're ****!

Just like using IE is our only option to look at websites on the interwebs.

WshflThinking · « **Reply #29 on:** April 21, 2011, 05:31:11 am »

I dont have a problem with IE.

WshflThinking · « **Reply #30 on:** April 21, 2011, 05:34:38 am »

Quote from: Method on April 20, 2011, 09:48:10 pm

Yes wishful... because those are our only two options... Drilling ourselves... or importing... there are NO other sources of energy... none.. we're ****ed!

Just like using IE is our only option to look at websites on the interwebs.

And that person in the White House campaigned on having an energy policy and he has done nothing. He campaigned on keeping gasoline prices low too and gasoline is over $4/gal

Shoeless · « **Reply #31 on:** April 21, 2011, 08:11:27 am »

Four More Years!

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/04/17/from-wimp-to-winner.html

Fury · « **Reply #32 on:** April 21, 2011, 09:01:14 am »

Quote from: WshflThinking on April 21, 2011, 05:34:38 am

Quote from: Method on April 20, 2011, 09:48:10 pm
Yes wishful... because those are our only two options... Drilling ourselves... or importing... there are NO other sources of energy... none.. we're ****ed!

Just like using IE is our only option to look at websites on the interwebs.

And that person in the White House campaigned on having an energy policy and he has done nothing. He campaigned on keeping gasoline prices low too and gasoline is over $4/gal

When it gets over $5 or $6 per gallon, maybe that'll be incentive enough for people to drive less (translation: consume less gas) and for the automakers to develop more hybrids and fully-electric cars. The world has changed, and will continue to do so.

Shoeless · « **Reply #33 on:** April 21, 2011, 09:06:40 am »

I've cut way back on driving. More car pooling, more walking, more biking.

boatdrink · « **Reply #34 on:** April 21, 2011, 09:32:21 am »

Method - there is practially zero coverage down here of anything Gov Scott does...or anything else done in Tallahassee for that matter. Do you have links to any of those stories showing him "paying off" his political supporters?

boatdrink · « **Reply #35 on:** April 21, 2011, 09:41:29 am »

Hey, remember the anti-war movement?

Have you noticed all the huge antiwar demonstrations in the last twelve months? Yeah, me neither. It turns out that a lot of the energy for the movement seems to have been provided by Democrats who are a lot less worried about wars conducted by Democratic presidents. Or at least who believe that advancing the Democratic agenda is much more important than trying to end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. This is by no means the whole movement--but it was enough that once a Democratic took office, both the numbers at the demonstrations, and the organizational capacity of the movement as a whole, dwindled away to near-nothingness.

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/04/under-protest/237605/

JhonJeter0112358 · « **Reply #36 on:** April 21, 2011, 09:55:41 am »

Now THAT's a tactic I can appreciate. Post stuff from a liberal publication to make a point to liberals (vs. using Nat'l Review, Town Hall, etc.). Totally defuses the "well of course that's biased, look where it's from" objection.

Elsewhere, we are saving money in other areas so we can afford to take long weekend car trips. That helps, right?

boatdrink · « **Reply #37 on:** April 21, 2011, 09:58:24 am »

The Fed keeps printing, we keep paying...

$6 Gas? Could Happen if Dollar Keeps Getting Weaker

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42683030

McDonald's warns of accelerating food inflation

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/21/mcdonalds-idUSN2113482820110421

Gold hits fresh record as dollar slides

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/04/21/us-markets-precious-idUSTRE73786N20110421?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&ca=newf

Federal spending is so massive that we're being forced to monetize our debt. Raising taxes WILL NOT FIX THIS. Massive cuts across ALL areas of the federal budget have to happen - NOW.

Method · « **Reply #38 on:** April 21, 2011, 01:16:46 pm »

Boat... I just follow the tampa and st pete newspapers.

Tampa tribune leans to the left and St pete times to the right... between the two you can get a decent idea of whats going on.

boatdrink · « **Reply #39 on:** April 21, 2011, 02:08:16 pm »

Gracias.

It's amazing just how much the media down in this part of FL focus almost exclusively on local city council/county school board issues. I mean, it's good and all, but there are big decisions being made in Tallahassee that will affect all Floridians.

Method · « **Reply #40 on:** April 21, 2011, 02:17:42 pm »

O yea... peeps in Tampa be up in arms over his desire to remove the sprawl act... free and unfettered development is the goal... what a joke... we already have 5 days of water restrictions that havent been lifted in 4 years... and hes talking about allowing more development...

www.tbo.com - the online subsidiary of The Tampa Tribune
www.tampabay.com - the online subsidiary for the St Pete times.

They both generally cover whats going on in Tallahassee pretty well. peeps in st pete dont like the development laws more then here in hillsborough... but the old fogies complain about anything other then the status quo

boatdrink · « **Reply #41 on:** April 21, 2011, 03:15:54 pm »

Does this pretty much sum up QE and the Fed, Method?

Method · « **Reply #42 on:** April 21, 2011, 03:32:12 pm »

Thats a long clip... lol.

Not entirely... it seems they believe that Quantitative easing is simply printing money... while the end result does appear to be that, what they are trying to do is increase the money supply and prevent deflation.

Deflation is bad on all counts... while its simple to say we dont have deflation because the cost of goods is rising... the cause for the rise in cost is not due to the QE (it has had an effect but not as great as some make it out to be).... imho its directly related to the devaluation of currency due to long term deficits and extended periods of excessively cheap credit... when credit is made this cheap and you can borrow money at no cost.. then the inherent holding value of saved assets is lowered... you reward those that are ****ty planners (ie wall street) and dont have assets by making borrowing money cheaper then saving up your assets.

Deflation is so bad... that even the thought that we might enter a deflationary phase can cause massive issues in the economy during a recession... you want people to spend money... not save it because things will be cheaper tomorrow. (which is exactly what will happen in a case of deflation)

I think the one thing that entire clip totally forgets... is that by devaluing the US dollar, the Fed is effectively taxing the rest of the global economy (as we devalue the dollar other countries are forced to buy more dollars and the value of their holdings is erroded, they paid for those dollars in GDP x amt of years ago, and we're diluting the value of it)... this in turn lessens the recessionary pressures on the US by shifting some of our pain to other economies...

QE is probably going to stave off some of the trade imbalances and indirectly force the bank of china to start valuing their currency a lot faster... esp if they wish to keep up their double digit economic growth rates...

I dont care for QE because it was brought upon due to un-naturally low interest rates... and after QE the fed really has no other method to stimulate the economy... we've already used up our silver bullet... and there still is NO appreciable gain in economic growth. they cant lower interest rates, they cant do more QE.. and they want to cut spending... not a good combination.

Method · « **Reply #43 on:** April 21, 2011, 03:41:01 pm »

I shouldnt say they cant do more QE, if they choose they could do more... but there is already a big push back from quite a few members of the fed to raise interest rates and back off.

Plus if we do more QE the other countries are going to push back... with increased tariffs on American goods etc. (see the latest Chinese tax on American steel as an example)

WshflThinking · « **Reply #44 on:** April 21, 2011, 05:57:55 pm »

Quote from: Shoeless on April 21, 2011, 09:06:40 am

I've cut way back on driving. More car pooling, more walking, more biking.

Nice but town is 10 miles away. Of course we buy in larger quantities. Still hard to conserve more than what I already do

boatdrink · « **Reply #45 on:** April 22, 2011, 08:55:34 pm »

Happy Earth Day!

http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/checker.aspx?v=XdSUkUSU4z

Method · « **Reply #46 on:** April 22, 2011, 10:11:27 pm »

Happy April 22... turns out skynet did not launch an attack on humans on the 21/04/2011

too bad... i was looking forward to ahnold saving the world...

On a different note... wouldnt he be about the best thing the repubs can send up for presidential nomination? sure the hell beats the snot out of the crap they have lining up so far.

Method · « **Reply #47 on:** April 23, 2011, 05:24:23 am »

Shocker shocker pumkin rocker... Rick scott doesnt agree with the EPA.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/environment/water/gov-rick-scott-to-us-epa-well-take-care-of-our-own-water/1165432

What an absolute joke... We get to deal with nitrogen run offs that flow down hill from Alabama/GA and florida industry... yet woe is the EPA for enforcing clean air/water regulations... Scott is blantly unaware of ecological ramifications of his decisions... but he didnt get the highest amt of corporate donations for a gubernatorial election (ever!!!) for ****s and giggles... he got them to get a return in their investment.

I am so so so so so happy rick douche bag scott is now governor... I really pray and hope that one my several job applications puthis are lead to a position that gets me the f away from this state comes through...

the state of Florida will remember Rick Scott as the governor that sold this state to the highest bidder... Lets look out for future generations by ruining the environment they get to live in!

Drill Drill Drill!

dont sue BP for their negligence... its not right to hold business accountable for their actions... businesses should be exempt from being socially responsible... Go Rick Scott!

(side note, the bigger problem is the toothless POS executive of the federal government, the one person that could give the EPA the standing it had before the bush administration... how much longer before true progressives call for his removal... he might win the next election... but it wont be due to merit... it will be because the right wing went off the deep end)

Method · « **Reply #48 on:** April 25, 2011, 04:58:27 pm »

Boat... here's a little read on QE vs stock prices...

http://moneywatch.bnet.com/economic-news/blog/macro-view/stock-prices-and-the-end-of-qe2-qe3-anyone/3389/

Shoeless · « **Reply #49 on:** April 27, 2011, 08:50:37 am »

Dem landslide in 2012?