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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2900 on: July 27, 2018, 06:03:49 pm »
Shouldn’t that be D’dFA?

No.  I treat "DFA" like it is a word.   Also, it's "RBIs", not "R'sBI".

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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2901 on: July 27, 2018, 09:53:27 pm »
Vieira comes in, gives up a double, hits 2 consecutive batters then corks a wild pitch.

About what anyone with a brain would expect.

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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2902 on: July 27, 2018, 11:01:07 pm »
Apparently he checked all of Rick Hahn's boxes to be called up >:(

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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2903 on: July 27, 2018, 11:14:08 pm »
I think it was to help Charlotte

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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2904 on: July 28, 2018, 10:48:51 am »
Davidson should move to the bullpen; he's got great stuff (heh).   Thus, Palka can be the DH, and then you have room to bring up Eloy.


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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2906 on: August 08, 2018, 08:47:08 pm »
Hating on White Sox management has been a personal struggle for me for the last 26 years.

All the grief one might want to give JR for his failures... this is why he is worthy of loyalty. Proud to be a sox fan for how they have handled this.


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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2907 on: August 15, 2018, 03:58:49 pm »

roster move for the return of Leury from the DL?   









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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2908 on: August 21, 2018, 01:26:41 pm »
Fantastic piece, well worth the read.  Yes, "7 is better than 6", but there is a lot more to it than that.


https://www.southsidesox.com/2018/8/21/17755596/how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-love-promotions-michael-kopech-chicago-white-sox


Who cares about the extra year of team control the White Sox would likely gain from warehousing Jiménez and Kopech in the minors until late April? Let’s be realistic. It’s really just a negotiating chip. If there’s one thing that everyone agrees that Rick Hahn is good at, it’s signing guys to long-term deals that buy out free agent years.

In other words, when we hear “what about 2025,” it really should be “what about 2027 or 2028.” If you have enough trust in Hahn as a general manager, you should trust that he’ll flex his one indisputable skill and sign these guys (assuming their performance merits it) to deals that buy out free agent year(s). And now we’re talking about past prime years.

Sure, if the White Sox only have control for six years instead of seven, the guaranteed money in such a deal will have to be larger. But we’re probably talking in the range of perhaps $10 million guaranteed per player, $45 million instead of $35 million, and that’s high side. And, sure, the team option year(s) will be for more money, but that’s really one of those “good” problems, as those would have been free agency years regardless.

And $10 million over multiple years, and far in the (baseball) future, is nothing.



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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2909 on: August 21, 2018, 05:27:02 pm »
That article is idiotic. Sale & Q have lost a ton of money by signing those long term low salary contracts. No agent worth his salt is going to make that mistake again. Those contracts only make any sense with pitchers as they have a high incidence of injuries - they provide insurance against devastating injury. A young position player would never sign such a contract. Hahn has never signed a position player to such a contract.

The idiot who wrote that article doesn't understand that the issue really isn't about money - it's about team control. If Eloy turns out to be an All-Star caliber player he'll become a free agent, like Moncada at 28, not even close to "past prime years." And then what happens? The author of that piece just assumes the Sox will be able to out bid the Yankees, the Dodgers etc.

What incredible stupidity! We have to accept the fact that the Sox aren't one of the high income teams in the league. Delusional fans think it's just about some billionaire owner forking out extra money so who cares. What brain damaged cognitive folly! The ownership group of the Sox doesn't make money on the team & they don't expect to, they just don't expect to lose money.

Jesus Blackie, I can't believe you fell for such shocking stupidity.

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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2910 on: August 21, 2018, 09:20:37 pm »

José Abreu  going to the DL - sounds like a hernia. No word on his roster replacement:

https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/1032087448099143680


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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2911 on: August 22, 2018, 08:46:01 am »
Keep on keeping' on, Willie.

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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2912 on: August 22, 2018, 10:15:37 am »
Sorry Bill. Hahn is incredibly smart, knows what he is doing. Maybe doesn’t work out but I’ll trust his judgement over the ramblings of someone here

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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2913 on: August 22, 2018, 11:22:24 am »
Yeah, the Samardzija trade was good because we had the opportunity to sign him long term!

No, he already indicated to the cubs & As that he was hitting the free agent market.

But if delusions make you feel better, have at it.

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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2914 on: August 22, 2018, 05:04:54 pm »
That was Kenny

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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2915 on: August 24, 2018, 11:04:43 am »
No, it was everybody on this stupid board - I remember tearing my hair out at the time over the insanity.

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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2916 on: August 27, 2018, 08:44:59 pm »
“Willie”.  Snicker

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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2917 on: August 28, 2018, 07:15:21 am »
Sam trade, Shields trade... lots of those type of deals in our recent past.


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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2918 on: August 28, 2018, 07:50:44 am »
Sam trade, Shields trade... lots of those type of deals in our recent past.


Samardiza  did not pan out, but we did not give up much. Phegley, meh. Bassitt hurt all the time, Ravelo is maybe out of baseball and Semien is a good player but Anderson has better ceiling but had some learning to do.

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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2919 on: August 28, 2018, 11:02:59 am »
None of the guys panned out... but it was org depth... and we didnt need to expend it on Sam... Shields... the guy we gave up is now #3 prospect in baseball as a 19 year old.

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« Reply #2920 on: August 28, 2018, 12:12:08 pm »
They just could not quite believe we were out of contention. Sam trade I can see why they tried. Shields was bad, we were toast and no way he was going to help it, but no one believed at that time Tatis was this good. Still a bad trade but **** happens.

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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2921 on: August 31, 2018, 03:34:04 pm »
Enjoy that extra year of Eloy, because after that, he gone.

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« Reply #2922 on: August 31, 2018, 04:39:20 pm »
Enjoy that extra year of Eloy, because after that, he gone.
No kidding, kid has earned it, call him up although now is likely too late to prevent hurt feelings.

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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2923 on: August 31, 2018, 06:35:35 pm »
If the rebuild lives up to its hype, and its a winning ball club and we offer the $$$ he will sign.

BTW when is the last time we kept a someone from leaving in FA that was a hitter? Carlos Lee? Mags? FT?

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Re: 2018 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2924 on: August 31, 2018, 08:55:35 pm »
Enjoy that extra year of Eloy, because after that, he gone.
No kidding, kid has earned it, call him up although now is likely too late to prevent hurt feelings.

Hurt feelings today don't necessarily linger for seven years.  If that were true, the Cubs should trade Bryant soon since Theo did the same to him to ensure 7 years of control. 

 

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