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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #175 on: May 13, 2011, 10:09:49 am »
Viciedo hasnt reached Ruthian proportions yet either.

Are we talking about his hitting or his weight?

Either choice. ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #176 on: May 13, 2011, 11:46:53 am »
Viceido still has ZERO plate discipline.

I want them to stick with Morel. Ventera didn't hit when he came up/ same with Crede.

Morel has been good with the Glove so far from what I've seen.

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #177 on: May 13, 2011, 11:50:53 am »
Viciedo can flat-out hit... which is more than we can say for your boy Morel.

Well your boy Cede couldnt hit either when he first came up and Viciedo hasnt reached Ruthian proportions yet either. I still think Morel can hit big league pitching. Hey I am not expecting 40/40 from Morel but he wont be bad either

Oh and Viciedo is such a great fielder he might take Quentin's job in RF. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Morel will end up like a Brandon Inge... a good fielder that will eternally frustrate fans with his consistent .220-230 batting average.

We need more hitters who can knock in runs.  Viciedo is crushing minor-league pitching.  It's time to find a place for him on the Sox and have a Mentor work with him on his fielding. 

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #178 on: May 13, 2011, 11:55:37 am »
I disagree... he wont be anything more then a situational pinch hitter like he was last year...

Ozzie will pick and choose his spots... granted i'd rather have him in that roll then Treehorn.

But as a starter his 9:28 BB to K ratio will hurt bad... and i'm pretty sure 5 of those walks were IBB

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #179 on: May 13, 2011, 12:20:23 pm »
We need more hitters who can knock in runs.  Viciedo is crushing minor-league pitching.  It's time to find a place for him on the Sox and have a Mentor work with him on his fielding.

 Dont know what he is crushing if he is striking out so much. Maybe he has taken up recycling aluminum cans and is crushing them. ;D  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #180 on: May 13, 2011, 12:36:51 pm »
His K rate is actually down a solid 5% from last year from 22+ to just over 17 this year.

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #181 on: May 13, 2011, 12:38:44 pm »
Can we please stop quoting quotes quoting quotes?

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #182 on: May 13, 2011, 12:46:00 pm »
How else are we to follow which random train of thought is being responded to?

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #183 on: May 13, 2011, 01:30:55 pm »
Ozzie protected Viciedo last year, and said as much.  An everyday Viciedo would be something like .270/.300/.450 . . .   still better than JP but not a savior.  Lilli or Omar can lead off, cause Beckham's not looking like an everyday player either.  If you sometimes have Beckham, Morel, and the Tank all in the line-up at once, let Rios leadoff.   Or let Viciedo do it . . . break up that muderer's row of fleas with a guy who might actually hit a 2-run shot . .  .

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #184 on: May 13, 2011, 06:20:52 pm »
Can we please stop quoting quotes quoting quotes?

Whats the problem with quotes within quotes?

what's wrong with quoting quotes within quotes?

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #185 on: May 14, 2011, 03:51:24 pm »
LOL

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #186 on: May 17, 2011, 01:16:28 pm »
Dallas MacPhearson is the guy you call up?   Really?

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #187 on: May 17, 2011, 02:40:33 pm »
God, I hope not

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #188 on: May 17, 2011, 02:44:02 pm »
Usually when BlackSox asks a rhetorical question like that, it's a fait accompli.

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #189 on: May 17, 2011, 03:06:34 pm »
T'is indeed.   

Also -- Pierre benched, Lilli starting in LF and leading off.   

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #191 on: May 17, 2011, 03:19:19 pm »
well, he's hitting.  If he has a few good games, you send Morel down and bring up Viciedo

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #192 on: May 18, 2011, 06:14:42 am »
Morel playing tough defense last night. Took away at least 3 hits if Viciedo were playing 3rd. Morel is playing the best 3B of anybody we have

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #193 on: May 18, 2011, 07:37:06 am »
Morel playing tough defense last night. Took away at least 3 hits if Viciedo were playing 3rd. Morel is playing the best 3B of anybody we have

I concur... and I think he's still underachieving with the bat, so I think that'll come around soon too.  Maybe the 3-run jack is a sign of things to come.  He seems to be overly aggressive at the plate, and isn't waiting for his pitch to drive.

Either way, he's the best option we've got at 3B.

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #194 on: May 18, 2011, 11:24:52 am »
I wouldn't use Viciedo at 3rd.  But Dallas McPherson is here to light a fire under Morel's butt.

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #195 on: May 18, 2011, 11:35:46 am »
Morel should stay at 3B , no matter what.   His defense more than compensates for a .240 average.

Viciedo should be up here playing in the outfield with Pierre on the bench as a pinch runner.

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #196 on: May 18, 2011, 12:02:48 pm »
Morel should stay at 3B , no matter what.   His defense more than compensates for a .240 average.

Exactly.  It's Beckham who needs to contribute a lot more with the bat.  Sox can get by with the good-D, no-O 3B if they're getting decent production at 2B.

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #197 on: May 18, 2011, 03:52:52 pm »
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[/size]or vice-versa.  Third base is usually more of a power position, but I think Morel's bat was deemed ok because of (1) his defense  (2) potential for power/hitting at 2B/SS/CF/C and (3) excessive financial obligations.  Without much production at those spots, it puts a highlight on Morel's bat again.  If he hits .240, great.  I'll take him.  But if that .195 crap continued, this would be a much easier position to make a change at than 2nd, SS, or CF.

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #198 on: May 18, 2011, 05:23:04 pm »
Robin Ventura sucked big time with the bat in 1990 but was good with the glove, so if morel is gonna play awesome defense then keep him out there, but ozzie needs to do sound keep playing him

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Re: 2011 White Sox / Sox Manglement
« Reply #199 on: May 18, 2011, 08:13:43 pm »
Senator, I know Robin Ventura.  I served with Robin Ventura.  Brent Morel is no  Robin Ventura.

 

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