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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #200 on: June 12, 2011, 11:20:49 pm »
Not happy with my grammar!

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #201 on: June 13, 2011, 06:24:45 am »
Today In White Sox History - June 13th

 

June 13, 1957 - In the bottom of the 1st inning at Comiskey Park, an ugly brawl, precipitated by an Art Ditmar pitch behind Larry Doby’s head, breaks out when the White Sox outfielder takes exception to being the target of the bean ball and punches the Yankee hurler. Billy Martin, Walt Dropo, Bill Skowron and Enos Slaughter all actively participate in the melee.  It took 28 minutes to restore order in the game.  Home plate umpire Larry Knapp ejected Doby, Martin, Dropo and Slaughter from the game. Two innings later, Whitey Ford ejected by first base umpire Johnny Stevens for bench-jockeying. When the game finally came to an end, the Yankees were victorious 4 -3.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1957/B06130CHA1957.htm

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« Reply #202 on: June 13, 2011, 06:34:29 am »
  On June 13 in Baseball History...

    1905 - Christy Mathewson of the New York Giants pitched his second career no-hitter, this time defeating the Cubs 1-0 in Chicago.

    1913 - Eight years after tossing his second no-hit game Christy Mathewson of the New York Giants wins his three-hundredth career game and once again the Cubs are his team of choice.

    1924 - Yankees outfielder Bob Meusel gets hit in the back with a pitch then throws his bat at Tigers pitcher Bert Cole. The resulting fight includes players, fans and the police. Nearly thirty minutes later umpire Billy Evans is unable to clear the field and forfeits the game to New York, 10-6.

    1948 - Number 3 is retired in honor of Babe Ruth at Yankee Stadium in front of 49,641 fans. The ailing Bambino is in attendance as well as members of the 1923 Yankees squad.

    1950 - Hoot Evers' ninth-inning home run gave the Detroit Tigers a 10-9 victory over the New York Yankees as the teams combined for 11 home runs, a major league record. The Yankees hit six and the Tigers five.

    2003 - Roger Clemens - after four tries - finally joins the elite 300 Wins Club. The forty-year old fireballer is the twenty-first pitcher in the club after his Yankees defeat the Cardinals 5-2 in an interleague match-up.

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #203 on: June 13, 2011, 03:10:29 pm »
Ummmm,

How come did they play in RFK Memorial Stadium before he even died?

edited to D.C. Stadium.

R U happy now?  :P

I was going to say - this could be one of those conspiracy theory things....

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #204 on: June 14, 2011, 06:38:06 am »
On June 14 in Baseball History...

    1933 - Lou Gehrig's consecutive-game streak survives, even though he and manager Joe McCarthy are thrown out of a game. McCarthy is suspended for 3 games but Gehrig's streak, now at 1,249, continues.

    1952 - Warren Spahn of the Braves ties the N.L. record of Jim Whitney with 18 strikeouts against the Cubs in a 15-inning, 3-1 loss. Hal Jeffcoat's two-run triple wins it, while Spahn's home run is the only Boston score. Meanwhile, Braves scout Dewey Griggs signs Hank Aaron to a contract.

    1965 - No-hit pitching and 18 strikeouts, tying the N.L. extra-inning record, net Cincinnati's Jim Maloney a 0-0 tie with the last-place Mets through ten innings. Johnny Lewis's 11th-inning home run gives New York and reliever Larry Bearnarth a 1-0 win.

    1966 - Miami ekes out a 4-3 triumph over St. Petersburg (Florida State League) in 29 innings. It is the longest game not interrupted by a suspension of play in the history of organized ball. Sparky Anderson is the manager for St. Petersburg.

    1979 - The Giants lose to the Cubs 8-6, but Willie McCovey hits his 513rd career home run off Dennis Lamp. McCovey becomes the most prolific lefthanded home run hitter in N.L. history.

    1985 - One day after his successor Joe Altobelli was fired as manager of the Orioles, Earl Weaver comes out of retirement to manage the club. Weaver led Baltimore to six A.L. titles from 1968-82.

    1990 - The N.L. announces plans to expand from 12 to 14 teams for the 1993 season. The price of admission for each expansion franchise is $95 million.

    1992 - Ozzie Smith breaks Roy McMillan's N.L. mark by taking part in his 1,305th career double play.

    1995 - Giants infielder Mike Benjamin goes 6-for-7 in a 13-inning 4-3 win over the Cubs. It caps a three-day binge in which Benjamin, a career .186 hitter in his first six seasons, sets a major league record with 14 hits in three games. Benjamin was 14-for-18 in that stretch.

    Baseball Birthdays on June 14...

    1861 - Buffinton, Charlie
    1872 - Parker, Doc
    1882 - Cunningham, Mike
    1887 - Tragesser, Walt
    1889 - Harper, Bill
    1889 - Morgan, Ray
    1890 - Reis, Jack
    1891 - Withrow, Frank
    1895 - Davis, Ike
    1898 - Doran, Bill
    1899 - Pierson, William
    1914 - Myatt, George
    1917 - Manders, Hal
    1917 - Hoffman, Ray
    1922 - Hardin, Bud
    1925 - Mole, Fenton
    1926 - Newcombe, Don
    1928 - Plews, Herb
    1933 - Constable, Jim
    1935 - Wilson, Neil
    1937 - Weekly, Johnny
    1942 - Rios, Juan
    1950 - Fahey, Bill
    1953 - Aponte, Luis
    1953 - Lee, Mark
    1956 - Grace, Mike
    1957 - Brock, Greg
    1957 - Castillo, Tony (not the ex-BlueJays/WhiteSox/Braves/Mets pitcher)
    1960 - Larkin, Pat
    1960 - Laga, Mike
    1966 - Tomlin, Randy
    1967 - Spradlin, Jerry
    1967 - Turang, Brian
    1967 - Tsamis, George
    1975 - Munro, Peter

    Baseball Deaths on June 14...

    1906 - Sullivan, Mike
    1926 - Beall, Johnny
    1928 - Daily, Con
    1935 - Kuhn, Walt
    1937 - Miller, Bert
    1943 - Kommers, Fred
    1949 - Moran, Charlie
    1959 - Cotter, Ed
    1966 - Walker, Bill
    1970 - Clarke, Webbo
    1973 - Johnson, Fred
    1973 - Twining, Twink
    1980 - Hodapp, Johnny
    1982 - Evans, Red
    1983 - Martin, Speed
    1984 - Markell, Duke
    1989 - Capri, Pat
    1994 - Weaver, Monte
    2005 - Lennon, Bob


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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #205 on: June 14, 2011, 07:00:10 am »
This Date In White Sox History - June 14th




June 14, 1953 - Sox pitchers Billy Pierce and Sandy Consuegra both fire complete game shutouts in beating the Boston Red Sox in a double header at Comiskey Park. The Sox win 6 - 0 and 1 - 0. That same day the Sox acquire pitcher Virgil “Fire” Trucks in a five player deal with the Browns. Trucks would fire a pair of one- hitters and win 20 games during his time on the South Side.

Game 1: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1953/B06141CHA1953.htm

Game 2: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1953/B06142CHA1953.htm

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #206 on: June 15, 2011, 05:18:37 am »
Today in Baseball History - June 15th
   
1925    Entering the bottom of the eighth inning trailing the Indians, 15-4, the A's cross the plate 13 times in the frame. Philadelphia will hold on to the lead in the top of the ninth to defeat Cleveland in an amazing 17-15 come-from-behind victory at Shibe Park.

1938    In the first night game played in Brooklyn, Johnny Vander Meer pitches his second consecutive no-hitter beating the Dodgers, 6-0. Four days ago, the Reds' southpaw held the Braves hitless in a 3-0 victory at Crosley Field.

1940    Harry Danning's 460-foot fly becomes a round-tripper when Pirates outfielder Vince DiMaggio cannot dislodge the ball after it gets stuck behind the Eddie Grant Memorial in centerfield. In the Giants 12-1 Polo Grounds victory, the ‘Horse’ completes the cycle, which includes the unusual inside-the-park home run.

1948    The Tigers play their first home game under the lights defeating the Philadelphia A's, 4-1. Actually, 52 years earlier the club played a night game, but the results never made it into the books as an official game.

1951    The Cubs trade Andy Pafko along with Johnny Schmitz, Wayne Terwilliger, and Rube Walker to the Dodgers for Bruce Edwards, Joe Hatten, Eddie Miksis, and Gene Hermanski. The deal, which prevents the coveted 'Handy Andy' from going to the rival Giants, is the first of many to be made by Buzz Bavasi, Brooklyn’s new general manager.

1958    Identical twins are split up by the Pirates when Eddie O'Brien stays with Pittsburgh, but his brother Johnny, along with third baseman Gene Freeze, is traded to the Cardinals for infielder Dick Schofield.

1958    In a move that is perceived to be a prelude to a second deal with the Yankees, the A's trade Woodie Held and Vic Power to the Indians for southpaw Dick Tomanek, utility player Preston Ward and right fielder Roger Maris. Already under pressure, for allowing Kansas City to be a farm club for the the Bronx Bombers, American League president Will Harridge warns owner Arnold Johnson not to send the outfield slugger to New York for at least 18 months.

1963    At Candlestick Park, Juan Marichal no-hits Houston, 1-0, to become the first Giants hurler in 34 years, and the first since the franchise moved to San Francisco, to accomplish the feat. The 25-year old Dominican native outduels Colt .45's right-hander Dick Drott, who tosses a complete game three-hitter yielding the game's only run in the eighth inning giving up doubles to Chuck Hiller and Jimmy Davenport. 

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #207 on: June 15, 2011, 06:23:07 am »
This Date In White Sox history - June 15th


June 15, 1950 - On the biggest baseball stage, Sox pitcher Billy Pierce throws his first one hitter. Pierce shut down the Yankees in New York winning 5 - 0. It was the first of Pierce’s four one hitters.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1950/B06150CHA1950.htm

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June 15, 1958 - Sox pitchers Jim Wilson and Dick Donovan both fire complete game shutouts in beating the Orioles in a double header at Baltimore. The Sox win 3 - 0 and 4 - 0. Later that day the White Sox acquire pitcher Bob Shaw as part of a four player deal with Detroit. Shaw would come up big for the White Sox during the 1959 pennant winning season going 18 - 6 with a 2.69 ERA. 

Game 1: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1958/B06151BAL1958.htm
Game 2: http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1958/B06152BAL1958.htm

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June 15, 2004 - White Sox slugger Carlos Lee establishes the team record when he gets a hit in his 28th straight game. It broke the old mark held by Luke Appling and Albert Belle.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/2004/B06150FLO2004.htm

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #208 on: June 15, 2011, 06:36:47 am »
Today In White Sox History - June 15th

 

June 15, 1983 - White Sox General Manager Roland Hemond swaps second basemen with the Mariners getting Julio “The Juice” Cruz for Tony Bernazard. Cruz energizes the bottom half of the order, steals bases and provides stellar defense to help the White Sox go on a rampage and win the A.L. Western Division by a then record, twenty games over second place Kansas City.

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #209 on: June 15, 2011, 07:54:24 pm »
Just for Andy, prican for prican LOL!!

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #210 on: June 16, 2011, 04:38:39 am »
This Date In White Sox History - June 16th


June 16, 1957 - In the second game of a White Sox doubleheader sweep, Dixie Howell, in a three and two-third scoreless innings in relief, limits Washington to four hits earning his second victory of the season. The 37-year old's hitting proves to be the difference when his home runs in the fifth and sixth innings propel the White Sox to 8-6 victory at Comiskey Park.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1957/B06162CHA1957.htm

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #211 on: June 16, 2011, 05:10:28 am »
Today In White Sox History - June 16th


June 16, 1969 - In an effort to return major league baseball to Milwaukee, the Chicago White Sox play a home game at County Stadium where only 13,133 fans show up to see the 'home' team beat the Pilots, 8-3. White Sox first baseman Gail Hopkins drove in two runs with doubles in the first and third innings as White Sox Billy Wynne pitched a complete game and picked up his first win of the season. Ironically, the visitors will leave Seattle next season to move to the 'Cream City' with the one-year old American League franchise becoming known as the Brewers.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1969/B06160CHA1969.htm

 

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #212 on: June 16, 2011, 05:26:15 am »
    On June 16 in Baseball History...

    1909 - Jim Thorpe makes his baseball pitching debut for Rocky Mount (Eastern Carolina League) with a 4-2 win over Raleigh. It is the professional play in this year that will cause him to lose his medals won in the 1912 Olympics.

    1938 - Jimmie Foxx is walked a record six consecutive times by Browns pitchers as the Red Sox win 12-8.

    1945 - Dave Ferriss loses to the Yankees 3-2 after starting his career with eight victories — four of them shutouts — for the Red Sox.

    1978 - In the twelfth major-league season of a career speckled with near-misses, Cincinnati's Tom Seaver finally hurls a no-hitter. The Cardinals are the 4-0 victims as Seaver strikes out three.

    1989 - Rick Wolff, 37, writing an article on minor-league baseball for Sports Illustrated, finishes a three-day stint playing second base for the South Bend White Sox (Midwest League). He replaces Cesar Bernhardt and goes 4-for-7 against the Burlington Braves. Wolff will finish the year with the highest average of any Chicago White Sox farmhand.

    1993 - Ken Griffey, Jr., slugs his 100th career home run in Seattle's 6-1 victory over Kansas City to become the fourth-youngest to hit the century mark. Only Mel Ott, Eddie Mathews and Tony Conigliaro did it faster than the 23-year-old Griffey.

    1995 - Marlins outfielder Andre Dawson hits his 400th N.L. home run and 429th of his career in a 2-1 win over the Phillies.

    Baseball Birthdays on June 16...

    1853 - Knight, Lon
    1857 - Phillips, Marr
    1867 - O'Brien, Pete
    1874 - Blake, Harry
    1874 - Washburn, Libe
    1881 - Egan, Wish
    1882 - Keefe, Bobby
    1883 - Waller, Red
    1883 - Mattern, Al
    1886 - Speer, Kid
    1887 - Rowan, Jack
    1888 - Kirke, Jay
    1889 - Capron, Ralph
    1889 - Noyes, Win
    1889 - Dale, Gene
    1890 - Mollwitz, Fritz
    1892 - Farrell, Jack
    1894 - Glenn, Bob
    1913 - Scalzi, Skeeter
    1913 - Coscarart, Pete
    1914 - Wittig, Johnnie
    1916 - Rullo, Joe
    1920 - Malone, Eddie
    1922 - Surkont, Max
    1923 - Clark, Allie
    1924 - Johnson, Ernie
    1926 - Miller, Bob
    1933 - Johnson, Ken
    1934 - Herrera, Pancho
    1946 - Ragland, Tom
    1947 - Decker, Joe
    1948 - LeFlore, Ron
    1949 - Rauch, Bob
    1951 - Wall, Stan
    1957 - Barojas, Salome
    1962 - Schiraldi, Calvin
    1962 - Joyner, Wally
    1967 - Ericks, John
    1969 - Young, Kevin
    1971 - Hernandez, Fernando
    1971 - Gomez, Chris
    1975 - Nieves, Jose

    Baseball Deaths on June 16...

    1908 - Garvin, Ned
    1914 - Dorr, Bert
    1929 - Carman, George
    1929 - Sullivan, Mike
    1931 - Sommerville, Andy
    1940 - Hawes, Bill
    1941 - Flynn, Mike
    1949 - Kane, Jerry
    1955 - Morrison, Mike
    1958 - Phillips, Jack
    1961 - Bowc*ck, Benny
    1961 - Miller, Chuck
    1961 - Hillis, Mack
    1964 - Culler, Dick
    1967 - Holland, Dutch
    1971 - Partenheimer, Steve
    1975 - Courtney, Clint
    1976 - Dickey, George
    1977 - Rettig, Otto
    1978 - Shelley, Hugh
    1994 - Stuart, Marlin
    1999 - Stanky, Eddie
    2001 - Hood, Jr., Wally
    2001 - Jethroe, Sam
    2004 - Hausmann, George


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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #213 on: June 16, 2011, 07:33:26 am »
Andy,

Many thanks for these updates.  I look forward to seeing these every day.

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #214 on: June 16, 2011, 10:38:28 am »
In an effort to return major league baseball to Milwaukee, the Chicago White Sox play a home game at County Stadium where only 13,133 fans show up to see the 'home' team beat the Pilots, 8-3.

From what I remember of the White Sox that year, and of course what we all know of the Pilots, "effort to return major league baseball to Milwaukee" didn't really happen on that day.

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #215 on: June 17, 2011, 04:49:50 am »
Today In White Sox History - June 17th

Fifty years ago today . . .




June 17th, 1961 - The pitching of Juan Pizarro and the hitting of third baseman Andy Carey led the White Sox to a 5- 1 win over the Minnesota Twins at Comiskey Park.  Pizarro struck out 7 and allowed one run in 6 2/3 innings.  Carey had three hits (2 doubles) and drove in three for the Sox. Reliever Warren Hacker's  scoreless 2 1/3 innings earned him his third save of the season.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1961/B06170CHA1961.htm

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #216 on: June 17, 2011, 05:09:25 am »
This Date In White Sox History - June 17th

Seventy years ago today . . .


June 17, 1941 - In the Yankees' 8-7 loss to the White Sox at Yankee Stadium, Joe DiMaggio's hitting streak is extended to 30 straight games when his seventh-inning grounder takes a bad hop off Luke Appling's shoulder. The 'Yankee Clipper's' fortunate hit also breaks the team's record for hits in consecutive games, previously held by Roger Peckinpaugh (1919) and Earle Combs (1931) who both had 29.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1941/B06170NYA1941.htm

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« Reply #217 on: June 17, 2011, 05:19:47 am »
    On June 17 in Baseball History...

    1941 - Joe DiMaggio is credited with a hit in his 30th consecutive game when an easy grounder to short bounces up and hits Luke Appling on the shoulder. Chicago beats the Yankees 8-7.

    1943 - Player-manager Joe Cronin of the Red Sox hits two three-run pinch home runs, one in each game of a doubleheader, as Boston beats the St. Louis Browns 5-4 and loses 8-7. He had hit a three-run pinch homer two nights before against the A's, giving him three home runs in four at-bats. He will pinch-hit 42 times this year with 18 hits, including an A.L. record five pinch-hit homers.

    1960 - A two-run home run off Wynn Hawkins at Cleveland's Municipal Stadium makes Ted Williams the fourth player in major-league history to hit 500 home runs. The Red Sox win 3-1.

    1962 - Lou Brock of the Cubs hits a home run into the right-center field bleachers at the Polo Grounds, 460 feet from home plate, in the first game of a Chicago doubleheader sweep, 8-7 and 4-3. He is the second player to reach those bleacher seats, Joe Adcock being the first.

    1967 - A nine-hour and five-minute doubleheader between the Tigers and Athletics is the longest by game time in the American League ever. The first game includes a rain delay, and the second goes 19 innings before a Dave Duncan home run wins it 6-5 for the A's. Detroit takes the opener 7-6.

    1978 - Ron Guidry strikes out 18 batters in a four-hit 4-0 shutout of the Angels, setting an A.L. record for lefthanders. The victory raises the Yankee southpaw's record to 11-0.

    1987 - Dick Howser dies at St. Luke's Hospital in Kansas City. He led the Royals to their first World Championship in 1985, but was forced to give up managing during the 1986 season because of a brain tumor. His uniform number, 10, will be retired by the club on July 3.

    1997 - 'The Freeway Series' hits the street in LA, and the Dodgers drive home with the first win in this interleague series on Todd Zeile's second home run of the game. The Dodgers trailed the Angels by one run in the ninth, but tied it on a wild pitch and won it 4-3 on Zeile's homer.

    Baseball Birthdays on June 17...

    1855 - Connell, Terry
    1861 - Browning, Pete
    1877 - O'Brien, Pete
    1879 - Hilley, Ed
    1881 - Rossman, Claude
    1887 - Coulson, Bob
    1890 - Douglas, Phil
    1891 - Terry, Zeb
    1897 - Hubbell, Bill
    1903 - Shields, Ben
    1905 - Outen, Chink
    1910 - Bowman, Joe
    1911 - Humphrey, Bill
    1916 - Burns, Joe
    1918 - Elko, Pete
    1921 - Pope, Dave
    1928 - Nixon, Willard
    1932 - Daniels, Bennie
    1942 - Peraza, Luis
    1948 - Concepcion, Dave
    1949 - Ostrosser, Brian
    1955 - Charboneau, Joe
    1961 - Brantley, Mickey
    1961 - Mata, Victor
    1962 - Tate, Stu
    1963 - Kinzer, Matt
    1963 - Drees, Tom
    1965 - Lee, Manuel
    1965 - Magnante, Mike
    1966 - Abner, Shawn
    1975 - Brownson, Mark
    1975 - Sadler, Donnie
    1977 - Wood, Kerry

    Baseball Deaths on June 17...

    1895 - Galvin, Lou
    1901 - Craver, Bill
    1935 - Andrus, Wiman
    1939 - Sothoron, Allen
    1945 - Visner, Joe
    1949 - Cook, Jim
    1951 - Harper, Bill
    1952 - Bonetti, Julio
    1952 - Atkinson, Al
    1959 - McHale, Jim
    1961 - Johns, Ollie
    1962 - Brooks, Mandy
    1969 - Houck, Byron
    1973 - Scheeren, Fritz
    1974 - Salmon, Roger
    1974 - Slagle, Walt
    1975 - Gordon, Sid
    1979 - Lewis, Duffy
    1984 - Hegan, Jim
    1987 - Howser, Dick
    1988 - Montague, Ed
    1995 - Campbell, Bruce
    2000 - Albanese, Joe



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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #218 on: June 17, 2011, 09:12:28 am »
Another dumbass article from Rogers. This time he is gloating that he called the Jackson/Hudson trade a terrible deal from the start:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-your-morning-phil-hudson-granderson-girardi-20110617,0,6196365.story

What I'd like to know....where was this article when Hudson was getting knocked around earlier this year?

Hudson is a good pitcher, but he isn't 2.83 good. Micah Owings and Rich Hill looked like world beaters their first year or two in the NL too. Jackson is an established starter, which is what we were looking for to make a pennant run.

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #219 on: June 17, 2011, 10:47:57 am »
umm... Hudson IS that good. His K rate is just below 1 per inning.

His Fip and xfip are 2.61   3.39 respectively.

all this and hes been VERY unlucky in the BABIP department this year as its a solid 50 points higher then his career avg.

None of this would matter if jackson was pitching like he did 2nd half last year

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #220 on: June 17, 2011, 12:33:25 pm »
Agree with ISF in that it was the right thing to do at the time. We needed to go for it, sometimes you get burned. Jackson can still make this a good trade if he turns it around and leads us to a division championship this year.

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #221 on: June 17, 2011, 03:03:38 pm »
Hudson will go the way of Kip Wells and Josh Fogg - an initial bump in a new, crappy league then BLAM!

Book it.

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #222 on: June 17, 2011, 03:05:11 pm »
I disagree Boat... he looks sharp every time i've seen him pitch...

But as mentioned before... if jackson were pitching right now the way he did when we got him last year... this would be a non-issue.

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #223 on: June 17, 2011, 03:18:31 pm »
I would say let's see how he looks tonight against us, but he is facing Walker's Offensive Zombies...without a DH as well.

I'll be surprised if we score more than 6 runs over the entire series.

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Re: Pale Hose History
« Reply #224 on: June 17, 2011, 03:26:46 pm »
The only reason I am not more pissed about Hudson is that he really did not look that good with us. He had quite a few starts too. He was walking a ton of players it seemed, getting behind on the count a lot. He is good. I think better than Wells etc... but I do not think we are going to rue the day he was traded.

Last I looked, Clayton Richard had an ERA about 4.5, which is not horrible, but it was the worst ERA on the Padres by a run and a half. That NL West has great ERAs, it is the parks and a shitty league to boot.

 

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