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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #76 on: July 21, 2011, 01:00:21 pm »
Interesting take on Dunn Being Done:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=jp-passan_adam_dunn_slump_quitting_072011


If he was all in, he'd go now.


If he would bear down, like Peavy wants, he'd quit.


The Coo always wanted both of those guys:  maybe they'll send us Aramis Ramirez and Carlos Marmol for them?


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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #77 on: July 21, 2011, 03:39:35 pm »
Dunn needs a manager to play him at first base more - and a new hitting instructor.

Fire Walker and hire Mark Grace. Problem solved.

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #78 on: July 21, 2011, 04:01:57 pm »
Dunn needs a manager to play him at first base more - and a new hitting instructor.

Fire Walker and hire Mark Grace. Problem solved.

I would bet that thousands of Arizona Diamondback fans would be thrilled with such a development.

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #79 on: July 22, 2011, 09:18:20 pm »
Dunn needs a manager to play him at first base more - and a new hitting instructor.

Yep, exactly.  I think Dunn is out of sync from not playing in the field.

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #80 on: July 22, 2011, 10:48:06 pm »
saying it for months... let him play 1b and LF 10-15 games in a row and see how things work out... Kong and JP can split time at DH and their positions during the strech,

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #81 on: July 23, 2011, 05:25:26 pm »
saying it for months... let him play 1b and LF 10-15 games in a row and see how things work out... Kong and JP can split time at DH and their positions during the strech,

That sounds like a good plan to me.  Might just bring Dunn out of his funk.

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #82 on: July 23, 2011, 08:37:21 pm »
And weaken our defense at 1st.

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #83 on: July 24, 2011, 12:30:28 am »
And weaken our defense at 1st.

OK, let's just bench Dunn and eat his contract.   Sounds great.

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #84 on: July 24, 2011, 12:00:42 pm »
We could keep encouraging to go with that whole quitting thing he was toying with.   It's not like Paulie is having a carreer year or anyrthing so it is an ideal time to remove his bat from the line-up for 50% of the games given over to the AD experiment.  So that's the offensive side of the equation. 

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #85 on: July 24, 2011, 06:44:21 pm »
We could keep encouraging to go with that whole quitting thing he was toying with.   It's not like Paulie is having a carreer year or anyrthing so it is an ideal time to remove his bat from the line-up for 50% of the games given over to the AD experiment.  So that's the offensive side of the equation.

Who's advocating removing Paulie's bat from the lineup?

Let Paulie DH when Dunn's playing first.

Then let Pierre DH (or play RF, and have Quentin DH) when Dunn's playing LF.

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #86 on: July 24, 2011, 07:11:58 pm »

Kong and JP can split time at DH and their positions during the strech





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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #87 on: July 24, 2011, 07:38:26 pm »

Kong and JP can split time at DH and their positions during the strech


"Split time at DH and their positions" would imply that Kong would split time between DH and 1B, and JP would split time between LF and DH.

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #88 on: July 24, 2011, 08:11:00 pm »
So, either Paulie or Quentin is going to be sitting each day.  I say this is not the time to do that with either of them. 

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #89 on: July 24, 2011, 08:19:02 pm »
So, either Paulie or Quentin is going to be sitting each day.  I say this is not the time to do that with either of them.

No.

Day 1:
1B: Dunn
LF: Pierre
RF: Quentin
DH - Paulie

Day 2:
1B: Paulie
LF: Dunn
RF: Pierre
DH - Quentin

Day 3:
1B: Paulie
LF: Dunn
RF: Quentin
DH - Pierre

etc.

4 players, 4 positions.

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #90 on: July 24, 2011, 09:35:46 pm »
Someone 'splain me why there is a valid concern about how the switch from being a position player to being a DH has a negative effect on offensive performance, yet changing from one position to a new position is looked at as no big deal.

In the former case, the player has even less to worry about.  The defensive aspect has been removed from the equation and all he has to do is concentrate on hitting.  In the latter, the player has to concentrate on learning to play a new position as well as continuing to focus on offense.

Not sure that I buy the "sitting-in-the-dugout-and-not-playing-the-field-saps-your-readiness" argument either.  Edgar Martinez, Paul Molitor and Dave Winfield didn't seem to have any trouble with it.

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #91 on: July 24, 2011, 10:20:44 pm »
Big frank has always said that not playin in the field hurt his ability to "keep his head in the game".

PK is getting older him playing DH might not be to bad for him.

As to 4's concern's... Dunn has played both LF and 1b in his career. He CANT be worse then JP in LF....

Dunn has said in the past he didnt want to be a DH didnt think he could do it, now here we are 4 months into this season and he cant hit... can we atleast try and get him some playing time in the field and see how he does?


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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #92 on: July 25, 2011, 01:09:12 am »
plus, you left Kotsay out of that revolving DH scheme . . .

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #93 on: July 25, 2011, 06:58:51 am »
Then there is Teabag.

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #94 on: July 25, 2011, 09:49:58 am »
I do not want Dunn plodding around in LF!  That's even worse.

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #95 on: July 25, 2011, 11:07:20 am »
Again... it cant be worse then JP...

He needs to get some time in the field to see if it shakes him out the slump... get his head in the game.

If one assumes his skill set hasn't completely gone to hell, one of the few plausible conclusions to his struggles this year is that hes not playing in the field and is a full time DH and thats effecting him more then one would think.


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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #96 on: July 25, 2011, 11:30:45 am »
Again... it cant be worse then JP...

Jesus God Almighty! I havent seen Dunn and Pierre in any foot races but I will lay money on Pierre winning 10 out of 10 times.


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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #97 on: July 25, 2011, 11:54:03 am »
Right... and i'll bet money that Dunn can catch a ball when it lands in his glove... it wont bounce out.

I'll also bet that he has a better throwing arm then JP.

Dunn's bat HAS to get going... we gotta do whatever it takes to make it happen. Not sure why that sense of urgency isnt present with our manager.

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #98 on: July 25, 2011, 12:45:19 pm »
This whole problem would be made much simpler if we could just get more games against the Indians on our schedule.

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Re: Media Coverage of the White Sox
« Reply #99 on: July 25, 2011, 02:03:00 pm »
You need to take that one higher up

 

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