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Method · « **Reply #4075 on:** August 14, 2018, 07:59:02 pm »

Fantastic thread on twitter concerning how teams move up assets in the AL, this was done by a Jays fan as personal research, so NL teams are not included.

https://twitter.com/enosarris/status/1029525898184155137

This is about the only time you'll hear fantastic tread on twitter in the same sentence. The only team in the AL that pushes prospects faster then the Wsox is the Os.

All the "good" developing teams on general keep their players in the minors for atleast .6 years longer then the wsox. (this is the Rays/A's/Indians/Astros/Yankees); 3 teams i follow the most other then the wsox are the Rays/indians/Astros, i suppose this further tints my view against how the Sox do things.

Astros are the only successful team that pushes their prospects to the majors almost as fast as the Sox. they have also had the luxury of having a lot higher draft picks then the Sox over the last 5 years.

Shoeless · « **Reply #4076 on:** August 14, 2018, 09:11:32 pm »

Which players have they rushed? Sale? Moncada was brought up by the Red Sox at one point. Btw, how far back do they go?

Shoeless · « **Reply #4077 on:** August 14, 2018, 09:15:13 pm »

What number are you looking at to show they were rushed?

Method · « **Reply #4078 on:** August 15, 2018, 06:47:33 am »

Avg ETA. he only went back 3 years... so sale is not part of the data set.

He's going to publish more data soon, avg at bats per level for a prospect that made it to the majors and such will be forthcoming shortly.

Shoeless · « **Reply #4079 on:** August 15, 2018, 08:16:10 am »

No Cub data?

Method · « **Reply #4080 on:** August 15, 2018, 10:45:59 am »

The research was done by a Jays fan, to see how they stack up against rest of the AL... so he did not bother with the junior circuit.

Method · « **Reply #4081 on:** August 15, 2018, 10:47:36 am »

The whole bit has been picked up by eno sarris, so in a few weeks we should have a much more indepth article on the data... and its being expanded out to go further back.

Some folks correctly pointed out that some of those teams were pushing prospects faster during that period due to where they are in their teams cycle. So hopefully more comprehensive data soon.

ISF · « **Reply #4082 on:** August 15, 2018, 04:24:21 pm »

Francis Martes getting Tommy John...

aka Loveland · « **Reply #4083 on:** August 16, 2018, 07:19:43 am »

Ugh. Way too much data it is ruining the game.

AndyMacFAIL · « **Reply #4084 on:** August 18, 2018, 03:15:51 pm »

Chris "Scissorhands" Sale heading back to the DL with shoulder inflammation:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/redsox/2018/08/18/red-sox-put-chris-sale-back-disabled-list/ilq3Icq2OaqBbS9oAozPmI/story.html

Method · « **Reply #4085 on:** August 18, 2018, 08:50:20 pm »

Sale and Q both need more Cooper in their lives.

msf · « **Reply #4086 on:** August 19, 2018, 12:00:56 pm »

Quote from: aka Loveland on August 16, 2018, 07:19:43 am

Ugh. Way too much data it is ruining the game.

I agree so much with this. I hate it.

Juan pizzarro · « **Reply #4087 on:** August 19, 2018, 09:22:58 pm »

Quote from: msf on August 19, 2018, 12:00:56 pm

Quote from: aka Loveland on August 16, 2018, 07:19:43 am
Ugh. Way too much data it is ruining the game.
I agree so much with this. I hate it.

Funny, that's what people kind of said at the office when everyone first got a PC and they were told they had to work with them going forward.

aka Loveland · « **Reply #4088 on:** August 20, 2018, 08:52:14 am »

Yes. I’m a Luddite. But a systems analyst in real life who knows that life cannot be defined down into raw pieces of data. Baseball is filled with real people, who have real reactions to playing on the big stage. Analysis can never take you between the pieces of data.

Some real people defy the data and soar - and some, well....poor Q.

msf · « **Reply #4089 on:** August 20, 2018, 01:23:29 pm »

Always comes down to poor Q, poor bastard.

AndyMacFAIL · « **Reply #4090 on:** August 22, 2018, 01:05:25 pm »

The Cardinals Have a Chance to Catch the Cubs.
Five Weeks Ago, That Was Unthinkable

https://www.101sports.com/2018/08/22/the-cardinals-have-a-chance-to-catch-the-cubs-five-weeks-ago-that-was-unthinkable/

Method · « **Reply #4091 on:** September 11, 2018, 03:54:52 pm »

Cubs trying to hold brewers off for the division. Sox play them 9/21-9/23. Might be our world series this year.

SoxRule · « **Reply #4092 on:** September 13, 2018, 07:59:50 am »

With the way this season has gone it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the Sox gave away all 3 games to the Cubs spurring them on to an 8 game winning streak and sealing the division for them.

msf · « **Reply #4093 on:** October 01, 2018, 08:29:31 am »

Quintana with a huge start today.

AndyMacFAIL · « **Reply #4094 on:** October 01, 2018, 03:15:40 pm »

AndyMacFAIL · « **Reply #4095 on:** October 02, 2018, 01:42:55 pm »

Paul Molitor fired as Twinkies' manager

http://www.startribune.com/twins-manager-paul-molitor-fired-one-season-after-winning-manager-of-year-award/494932911/

AndyMacFAIL · « **Reply #4096 on:** October 03, 2018, 12:09:13 pm »

Buck Showalter out as Orioles manager

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bs-sp-orioles-showalter-out-20181003-story.html

http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/24882299/buck-showalter-fired-baltimore-orioles-manager

AndyMacFAIL · « **Reply #4097 on:** October 08, 2018, 10:45:55 pm »

The Dodgers might be in actual leagal trouble

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-dodgers-might-be-in-actual-legal-trouble/

aka Loveland · « **Reply #4098 on:** October 20, 2018, 07:23:10 am »

Fascinating.
https://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/who-was-ty-cobb-the-history-we-know-thats-wrong/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=paid&utm_campaign=ty-cobb

BillSharp · « **Reply #4099 on:** October 20, 2018, 12:36:58 pm »

I read that book about a year ago - it's very good & makes a convincing case that all the misconceptions we have about Cobb are the result of one dishonest writer.