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Re: 2018 + 2019 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2975 on: October 29, 2018, 09:33:11 pm »
Yes.  Not sure how we let that happen.

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Re: 2018 + 2019 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2976 on: October 30, 2018, 12:31:53 pm »

Item #2 on this list will make most here happy.  However I wouldn't be surprised if he's re-signed later to a contract at about $7 million for 2019.  The injury to Kopech and the failure of many starting pitcher prospects (Fulmer, Hanson, etc.) to make the next jump in their development may force the White Sox to do it.

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Re: 2018 + 2019 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2977 on: November 06, 2018, 11:53:09 am »

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Re: 2018 + 2019 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2978 on: November 06, 2018, 02:02:31 pm »
Some tough choices.

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Re: 2018 + 2019 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2980 on: November 06, 2018, 09:30:49 pm »
Question on Kopech.

Had he not been injured, he would have been on the opening roster in 2019 and we would have had him for 2019 through 2024. When he comes back in 2020, can we delay his comeback until late April and then have him under control through 2025 and still have him for 6 years?

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Re: 2018 + 2019 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2981 on: November 06, 2018, 10:05:52 pm »
Because Kopech got hurt while on the ML roster the whole time he's out will count as ML service time. So if he's out all of 2019 that's 1 yr of ML service time the Sox lose on him.

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Re: 2018 + 2019 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2982 on: November 06, 2018, 10:09:52 pm »
Read that 40 roster article. I'd put on the 40 all 6 of those guy listed as a high risk of being taken in the Rule 5 - Cordell is the obvious guy to take off the current roster.

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Re: 2018 + 2019 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2983 on: November 09, 2018, 09:18:50 pm »
Because Kopech got hurt while on the ML roster the whole time he's out will count as ML service time. So if he's out all of 2019 that's 1 yr of ML service time the Sox lose on him.

Thanks Bill, but that wasn't quite my question, I knew 2019 would count as service time. My question was that if he was still healthy now, and we kept him down next year (2019) and brought him up in May of 2019 would he have had 6 years starting with 2020?

If so, now that he isn't healthy and we lost a year of service time, can we basically get it back by not bringing him back in 2020 until May of 2020, so the year 2020 won't count as a full year? If so then we could still have 5 years after 2020 and onluy lose April of 2020.

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Re: 2018 + 2019 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2984 on: November 09, 2018, 11:02:45 pm »
juan

  Yes.  As soon as Kopech recovers from the surgery and is healthy, they can activate him and then reassign him to the minors to try to delay his free agency date.  He was credited with 41 days of service time for 2018.  So he needs 50+ days of minor league  non-rehab assignment in the next few years to delay his potential free agency by a year. IIRC, this must be done before a player accumulates 3 full years of MLB service time as a player with 3 years of service time cannot be optioned to the minors without his permission. That's in the current MLB CBA which expires after the 2021 season.

http://www.mlbplayers.com/pdf9/5450407.pdf



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Re: 2018 + 2019 White Sox / Sox Management
« Reply #2985 on: November 10, 2018, 07:59:44 am »
juan

  Yes.  As soon as Kopech recovers from the surgery and is healthy, they can activate him and then reassign him to the minors to try to delay his free agency date.  He was credited with 41 days of service time for 2018.  So he needs 50+ days of minor league  non-rehab assignment in the next few years to delay his potential free agency by a year. IIRC, this must be done before a player accumulates 3 full years of MLB service time as a player with 3 years of service time cannot be optioned to the minors without his permission. That's in the current MLB CBA which expires after the 2021 season.

http://www.mlbplayers.com/pdf9/5450407.pdf



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