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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #375 on: September 30, 2011, 10:14:24 am »
Francona is a choker!  Plus he doesn't know how to get his teams off to fast starts - either.


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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #377 on: September 30, 2011, 04:01:11 pm »
Cool.  Not a bad haul for a guy that was nearly out of baseball 3 years ago...

Good for him.

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #378 on: September 30, 2011, 04:04:22 pm »
He earned it.

30 saves, 6 blown saves. He'll be rated 8th in AL by Elias I think. Better than Soria, Gregg and and some other, bigger names.


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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #379 on: September 30, 2011, 04:06:26 pm »
He definitely deserves the contract

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #380 on: September 30, 2011, 04:51:36 pm »
Yeah, but it bothers me that he sort of sucked at the end of the season

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #381 on: September 30, 2011, 06:09:21 pm »
He was 4th amoung relievers in K/IP... very team friendly contract.

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #382 on: October 01, 2011, 11:12:40 am »
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/09/latest-on-terry-francona-1.html

Apparently Don Cooper has been pushing for the Sox to hire Francona.

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #383 on: October 01, 2011, 04:05:04 pm »
That would be a great hire. Even with Coop going to bat for Francona, I still feel the deck is stacked against Francona

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #384 on: October 01, 2011, 04:56:05 pm »
Two reasons why Terry Francona is, at best, a long-shot to be named the White Sox next manager:

[1] Francona made $4M @ year for Boston.  That's $2.5M more than the CWS are willing to pay their next manager and

[2] Kenny's ego can't handle having a manager more accomplished then him (two World Series titles in 8 seasons).  Kenny prefers a first time manager that's beholding to him for the opportunity to move up.

The only way Terry Francona is named White Sox manager is if Reinsdorf insists on the hire.

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #385 on: October 01, 2011, 08:38:26 pm »
I think its the other way around. I think KW and Francona are friends, but Reinsdorf isnt going to pay the 4 Mill necessary to get Francona. Ozzie was obscure too with no managing experience when hired. Look for McEwing or Alomar to get the job. Thats why I said despite Coop lobbying for Francona Francona isnt likely hired. Reinsdorf has to save money somewhere with Done and Rihose to pay for.

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #386 on: October 01, 2011, 08:41:54 pm »
It wouldnt surprise me if Omar threw his hat in the ring.

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #389 on: October 03, 2011, 07:58:02 am »
My worst fears, Rick Hahn to the Cubs. Why does KW still have a job as GM of the Sox

White Sox farm system last?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/chi-your-morning-phil-williams-holmberg-hairston-20111003,0,6375684.story

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #390 on: October 03, 2011, 08:40:04 am »
Worst 2 weeks in sports ever... since ozzie got fired.. everything has gone to hell.

Bulls forgot how to play defense. Cowboys cant hold off the f'n lions... now this.

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #391 on: October 03, 2011, 09:26:10 am »
Not sure why Hahn gets the genious tag -- not just here but also in some local media.   He's the guy who oversees our awesome drafts.   

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #392 on: October 03, 2011, 09:29:19 am »
second son Jagger [Martinez] is a freshman scholarship soccer player at Northwestern.

Although I guess it's kind of cool to be named after a rock star that actually has talent, but the poor kid's nickname is probably "Jag".

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #393 on: October 03, 2011, 10:26:11 am »
Cripes!  What is with this obsession of only ex-Sox being considered for the coaching staff??

This loyalty thing is really p i s s ing me off.   We're a major-market club - make decisions like one!

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #394 on: October 03, 2011, 10:27:04 am »
Ah, Phil.   Too busy sucking Hendry's **** to ever criticize the BILLION dollars he blew without winning a single playoff game in 8 seasons.  And the criticism of the farm system is a bit over the top.   It has produced Hudson, Gio, Beckham, Morel, Viciedo, Sale, Richard in just the past couple of years.  Not bad production if you ask me.   

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #395 on: October 03, 2011, 10:27:58 am »
I find it funny that they are "targeting" Martinez.  Good lord, it should be the other way around.

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #396 on: October 03, 2011, 10:30:25 am »
Also, if they are really considering Tony Pena, do it. 

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #397 on: October 03, 2011, 10:32:00 am »
but the poor kid's nickname is probably "Jag"

If he ever becomes famous, his nickname, as is done with so many other stars these days, will be JagMart.

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #398 on: October 03, 2011, 11:08:40 am »
"Edes says the Red Sox have internally discussed Sandy Alomar Jr., Dave Martinez, Pete Mackanin, Ryne Sandberg, and Tony La Russa as candidates to replace Terry Francona as manager.  It is tricky to have Epstein overseeing this process given his uncertainty, but Cherington is involved as well."

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Re: The Off-season 2011-12 / Hot Stove League
« Reply #399 on: October 03, 2011, 11:22:00 am »
The farm system did not "produce" Beckham. 

 

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