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Offline AndyMacFAIL

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #175 on: June 12, 2011, 06:03:01 am »
Fury, is McAuliffe the one who tackled Tommy John and seperated his shoulder to knock him out for the season one year, I think John was 10-5 at the time.

I vaguely remember that incident... didn't McAuliffe claim that John was aiming at his head?





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Some sparks flew at Tiger Stadium with the Chicago White Sox in town on the night of August 22, 1968. "[Al Lopez] was managing the White Sox," McAuliffe remembers. "And they were not that far out of the race at the time. I was sort of the spark plug of the Tigers... scoring a lot of runs and playing good defense." Mickey Lolich was on the mound for Motown, Tommy John started for the Sox. McAuliffe played second, and led off the bottom of the first with a single. He scored on a Willie Horton single. "So [they must have] felt, if they were minus me, maybe John could hit me in the kneecap and I'd be out for two or three weeks, and they could catch up," Dick speculated.

The Tigers still led 1-0 when McAuliffe came up with one out in the bottom of the third. He remembers what happened next this way:

"[T]he first pitch at me was right at my head, and I mean right at my head. The catcher never laid any leather on it, and it hit the backstop. And I didn't think too much of it... Tommy John has got some of the best control you'll ever see, and he's a lowball, sinker-slider type of pitcher with great control [and] not a great deal of velocity, but he was throwing the ball hard at me that day. So he threw... the next pitch, he spun me down, threw it behind me. And I turned around to the umpire, Al Salerno, and I said, "Boy, if that thing hit me it would really put me away.' Al didn't say anything... and I've got a glare in my eye then but I didn't say anything. The count worked to 3-2, so I dug in, and there's no way that John is going to throw at me again. The next pitch... it hit the backstop again. And now I'm mad. But not mad enough to go out and charge him. So I take about two steps, and I'm glaring out at the mound at him... and he starts popping off at me [saying] 'What the hell are you looking at you... ' or something like that. And all I saw were stars after that, and I just rushed out at him, and both benches emptied."

John remembers the incident differently. "I was 10-5 with a 1.98 ERA and pitching against the Tigers in August. A 3-2 pitch slipped out of my hand and sailed over Dick McAuliffe's head. I didn't throw at him, but McAuliffe was yelling at me as he went to first, and he charged the mound. McAuliffe drove his knee into my left shoulder and separated it." John was out for the year; McAuliffe was suspended for five games and fined $250 by league president Joe Cronin. "John hit us four times in Chicago in June," said manager Smith. "They hit eight of our guys in the series there and we didn't hit any of theirs." Tigers G.M. Jim Campbell said "Cronin used bad judgment."

There was only one HBP in that entire four game series and it was when the Tigers Pat Dobson hit Pete Ward. The John game was the last game of the series. So, it was not 8-0, but actually 0-1! John did hit four Tigers in a game on 6/15, though he pitched against them again on June 30 and pitched a five-hit shutout with no HBPs.

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"And they were not that far out of the race at the time." (douche-bag McAuliffe's recollection of the game)

At the end of the game, the White Sox were 52-74, in 9th place, 29 games back of the 1st place Tigers.

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1968/08221968.htm

http://www.retrosheet.org/boxesetc/1968/B08220DET1968.htm

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #176 on: June 12, 2011, 04:25:43 pm »
Yeah, 1968 was the beginning of three pretty sucky years for the Sox

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #177 on: June 14, 2011, 06:43:15 pm »
There won't be a "Stan Musial moment" for Derek Jeter this weekend at Wrigley:



Yankees place Derek Jeter on 15-day DL with calf injury

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/dailypitch/post/2011/06/derek-jeter-disabled-list-decision-yankees/1

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #178 on: June 15, 2011, 12:53:23 pm »
We have absolutely no use for him right now, although down the road I could see him as bullpen help, possibly replace Pena:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/06/scott-kazmir-likely-to-be-released.html

At the price of letting the Angels pay him, I'd pick him up, throw him in AA and let him get healthy.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #179 on: June 15, 2011, 01:16:12 pm »
Wait, I thought the Sox only get guys who pwn them but suck against everyone else. Kazmir has also sucked against the Sox.

Anyway, I favor this move and also getting him up to the big team so that whenever he takes the mound the Cell organist could play that Zeppelin song that sounds like his last name. Even if he sucks, it will have been worth it.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #180 on: June 16, 2011, 10:42:36 am »
Wait, I thought the Sox only get guys who pwn them but suck against everyone else. Kazmir has also sucked against the Sox.

Anyway, I favor this move and also getting him up to the big team so that whenever he takes the mound the Cell organist could play that Zeppelin song that sounds like his last name. Even if he sucks, it will have been worth it.

The Led Zeppelin catalog is full of pompous, self-indulgent drivel, but that particular song stands out as truly one of their most abysmal.  Every time I hear it, I get the urge to kill.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #181 on: June 16, 2011, 10:57:24 am »
You DO know that wasn't the point don't you? Not a "like" or "dislike" referendum?

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #182 on: June 16, 2011, 11:00:55 am »
You DO know that wasn't the point don't you? Not a "like" or "dislike" referendum?

I know.  But it's your fault.  You set me off.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #183 on: June 16, 2011, 11:30:09 am »
Our old friend DeWayne Wise has found a new AAA home:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/06/marlins-sign-dewayne-wise.html

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #184 on: June 16, 2011, 12:02:41 pm »
The Led Zeppelin catalog is full of pompous, self-indulgent drivel, but that particular song stands out as truly one of their most abysmal.

Heh.  Fury quite eloquently expressed my precise feelings on this matter.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #185 on: June 16, 2011, 12:06:32 pm »
But it would still be cool and funny.

Especially if the organist tried to play it, vs. using a recording.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #186 on: June 19, 2011, 08:44:08 am »
Guess who's been one of the hottest teams in baseball lately (without their entire roster!!)? We are one small losing streak from being passed up by the Twins yet again.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #187 on: June 23, 2011, 05:30:09 pm »
Riggleman resigns while the team is on a 11-1 run?  Gotta figure that that isn't going to sit well with the Washington players, which hopefully plays out to the Sox' benefit while they're in town.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #188 on: June 24, 2011, 10:23:48 am »
Riggleman resigns while the team is on a 11-1 run?  Gotta figure that that isn't going to sit well with the Washington players, which hopefully plays out to the Sox' benefit while they're in town.

Yeah, I think the chaos in the Nats' clubhouse will most likely work to our favor.  Then again, Riggleman quitting could galvanize them.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #189 on: June 27, 2011, 11:32:55 am »
Among the 40 largest unsecured claims listed in the bankruptcy filing are former Dodger slugger Manny Ramirez at nearly $21 million; Andruw Jones at $11 million; pitcher Hiroki Kuroda at $4.4 million; and the Chicago White Sox at $3.5 million.

http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/mlb/news/story?id=6708046

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #190 on: June 28, 2011, 09:18:29 am »
Back to 5 games out and now chasing the Tigers. Everyone thought it would be a fight between the Sox and Twins atop the division.  At least we're in striking distance....not that it means much since we're still playing like crap.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #191 on: June 28, 2011, 09:35:41 am »
Back to 5 games out and now chasing the Tigers. Everyone thought it would be a fight between the Sox and Twins atop the division.  At least we're in striking distance....not that it means much since we're still playing like crap.

A 5 game lead is nothing.

At least that's what we'd all be saying if we were in the lead.  Which is probably a legitimate statement if that were the case.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #192 on: June 28, 2011, 09:52:25 am »
Twins seem to have gotten a few recent reminders that they suck this year. Sox seem to get that sort of reminder at least once a series, so it's hard for a Sox fan to gloat much.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #193 on: June 28, 2011, 10:22:44 am »
Mediocre and lukewarm.  Blecko

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #194 on: June 28, 2011, 12:11:49 pm »
This team will finish 81-81.  Book it.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #195 on: June 28, 2011, 12:54:04 pm »
... and 5.0 out of first place,leaving us with a big steaming pile of Woulda Shoulda Coulda!

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #196 on: June 28, 2011, 01:03:29 pm »
Fury, you're up there, so you probably read more coverage of the Tigers and actually see them play during the periods when your TV hasn't been stolen or shot out. . .are they any good?

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #197 on: June 28, 2011, 02:25:44 pm »
"The 54-year-old Quade is in his first full season as the Cubsí manager. Chicago has been beset by injuries this season, a factor in its disappointing start."  beset?  really? 

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« Reply #198 on: June 28, 2011, 04:20:53 pm »
Fury, you're up there, so you probably read more coverage of the Tigers and actually see them play during the periods when your TV hasn't been stolen or shot out. . .are they any good?

They're good, but not THAT good.  If the Sox just had two more hitters actually producing, we'd be right there in it with them.  Of course, Verlander is having a hell of a year.

Assuming that the Tigers make the playoffs, my expectation is that they'll be knocked out in the first round.

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Re: Around Baseball
« Reply #199 on: July 02, 2011, 03:40:25 pm »
A few former White Sox players/prospects in the news this week:

MLB Transactions:

Friday July 1, 2011

Arizona Diamondbacks: Placed RHP J.J. Putz on the 15-day DL, retroactive to June 29.

Oakland A's:  Recalled RHP Fautino De Los Santos from Sacramento (PCL).

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Thursday June 30, 2011

Boston Red Sox:  Designated OF Mike Cameron for assignment.

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Wednesday June 29, 2011

New York Mets:  Placed OF Willie Harris on paternity leave.

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Tuesday June 28, 2011

Boston Red Sox: Activated RHP Bobby Jenks from the 15-day DL.

 

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